11. Ted’s story, mid 90s, Yung lean and more superheroes

Ted Barrow shares a memory of fat Chris and Jonah hill. Per finds a secret map and Chris buries the hatchet with Yung lean. The boys also talk skateboard cinema.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:03

Welcome back to the Maximum Impact Show. It's episode eleven. We are uh back in the studio with Paris Healing.

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Slowly but steady.

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Yeah, it's good. We're all pulling for everybody.

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Thank you.

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Okay. Um it's a lovely spring day in Stockholm. And um it's one of those cold and hot and sunny and cloudy, and suddenly you have the flu by noon, and then you're all better by four. Um and then you get the hot sets, hot sweats, and the cold sweats. But uh it's a sign of the seasonal change, and it's just it's it really makes you grateful.

SPEAKER_01 0:58

I like that. I like when you um narrate the world. Yes, the uh the seasons. It's beautiful.

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We forget that it's a beautiful thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:11

The seasons? Yeah, the changing of seasons. I agree. As a California boy, I bet you forgot all about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:22

Yeah, you forget everything. You forget your soul, you leave your soul on the sidewalk, and you just assume everything will be perfect forever.

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Yeah.

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And um and then you lose your mind.

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It's like here. You lose your mind uh uh in the darkness.

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Yeah, it's equal.

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But then you find it. Like around this time.

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You're the great grizzly bear that crawls out of the cave and asks what fucking day it is. Yeah. And uh what your name is and wonder what you missed.

SPEAKER_01 1:55

And um now I am rediscovered. Okay, so should we introduce the very um fanatic Ted Barrow?

SPEAKER_02 2:08

Yes, friend of the show, Ted Barrow, Theodore Barrow. Um is a guy I first met in right around 9-11, never forget. Um started to visit New York and finally became like buddies with him uh as I closer as I I started, like I actually lived there, and then he was one of my like three or four like tight, tight homies. And then um he was there kind of doing like I think he was just out of school. He was just fucking too smart to hang out with us. Like, it was like kind of one of those guys, like, what are you doing with a skateboard? Yeah, I know those. You're way too intellectual. Um, very funny writer. He's now a PhD and I want to guess like art history, and he's got a show on Thrasher's website, and he does tours of cities, and he's just a big, big container of uh fun knowledge. Um very funny guy, and a great skateboarder.

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SPEAKER_01 3:11

Um is it like in the past with the the trick review thing? Is that something he's ashamed of?

SPEAKER_02 3:18

No, he does uh because he was the guy that uh skateboard crowd would know uh from feedback TS, where you like send his send clips to him and he would just slaughter you with like scathing uh smug hilariousness, but also kind of self-aware and a little bit of uh you know dogging himself a bit just to just to balance it. It was a good time for skating. It was perfect. I didn't like it at first. I thought it was too nasty, and then I I kind of like got around the corner and was like, this is brilliant, and people love doing it, they love getting toasted uh roasted by him.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

You know he did one of my tricks, right? He did, I didn't know that.

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Oh, that's a good one.

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That was in my 15 minutes of fame.

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That's awesome.

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Um I think I screen recorded that.

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Um if you ever find that, that would be a good one.

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That would be so fun, actually. But uh yeah.

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Now he does now he's moved on. This is like 15 years or 10, 15 years ago, but now he does uh a podcast and uh Instagram account called Berate the Birds, which I think means yell at them.

SPEAKER_01 4:25

And we talked about not doing that, not being not being mean to birds.

SPEAKER_02 4:29

Yeah, we want to save the birds in all life. Um but it's it's another very entertaining thing. I think he's got a Patreon, um and he's got this old ledge on Thrasher. But he was one of our first diehard fans. He's he's always supportive.

SPEAKER_01 4:45

Yeah, I l I love that.

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He's like the one guy who's always cheering for me, and now he's cheering for us. Yeah. Um, but he had a funny thing on his uh I guess he did it on his Instagram account, and it was sort of recounting a day near the time he was about to move from New York to San Francisco, and he told a story about uh just a silly day we had, and um I recorded it so we could play it here, and it'll lead into a bigger thing. Yeah. Um so we could watch it now.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

Yeah, let's have uh a look and listen. And a look and pair we'll start.

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And I think I knew Chris in his fat stage because he'd come back from LA. He was living in this dingy just old school tenement deep in Chinatown. Kind of tenement where you know, when you could imagine that Jacob Reese would have shot how the other half lives in this tenement. Rough. Walls painted red, just some kind of you know, peeking duck restaurant, just blasting duck air into the air shafts of the buildings, closely packed together, crumbling red brick. How can I pause? Ancient tile. That's a good question.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

Chris moved from uh so he's talking about when you were fat.

SPEAKER_02 6:25

Yes, this is the time of my girth, my great girth phase um in Chinatown. It was I just he'll explain it, but I just come back from uh having my mind destroyed by Los Angeles. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:38

And um And we spoke about this in episode three, I think. Yeah. Um okay. So that's what he's talking about. Yeah. Just for um context.

SPEAKER_00 6:50

I just noticed that his life was terrible. I think fatness was the least of his problems. He lived in a fairly crowded apartment that overlooked the back of the building. He had a succession of rotating roommates, none of whom I ever really got to know. They all seemed to be drug addicts or criminals or thieves. Right. And he had a poster of Tupac on a couch. And then all of his photo equipment and everything else just seemed to be like stacked up, and he slept somewhere, and I couldn't imagine his giant 6'7 frame overweight or not fitting anywhere in this tiny little cramped apartment. He must have been so miserable. It was. Yeah. But being that he's one of my oldest and best friends, I wanted to take him skating. Side note. On my birthday, the last birthday I spent in New York City in 2019, September 9th, 2019, Chris took me skating. This was much later. Chris took me skating to LES, and then we went and got a sandwich. And then we went and watched Once Upon a Time in Hollywood together. And I was having such a wonderful day. That's cute. Until I realized that I was turning 43 and Chris was probably taking me skating and hanging out with me and taking me to a movie because he was one of my closest friends and he felt really sorry for me. Because of the age? Back to this story. I'm not sure if I felt sorry for Chris or if I just wanted to go skate with him. But at any rate, after we were done skating, uh, we were hanging out at labor, and I was like, dude, let's just go across the street and get a power bowl from dimes. And he's like, I don't want to go there, man. And I was like, dude, it's fine. You know, this since from the time that Chris had left and moved to LA to the time that we were there, dimes, this area around Canal Street had transformed. Not only had Labor Skate Shop moved there in 2012, not only had the LAS park been refurbished, so it was now a major skateboarding destination in New York City, but also all the art galleries were starting to move here. There were these like hip boutiques that sold things like sharpened pencils and fucking stupid clothing and shit. And uh dimes was the center of it all. Another side note, I had this girlfriend named Drake, who sometime after she dated me, dated another guy named Theo. I don't go by Theo. I think people who go by Theo are assholes. But uh she dated this dude, Theo Leoner, who was the son of the shhh Rolling Stones family fortune. And he I think he torn down a building and then built his own building, the top of which he had a big loft apartment with a balcony that oversaw dimes in Canal Street like a malevolent tyrant. And there was this one afternoon where I was supposed to like meet up with with Drake to like have have cocktails at Bakaro, and then I had to flight because I didn't have any money. And then I ended up going to Bakaro anyway, and I saw her there with Theo. And then afterwards she called me up and she's like, What the fuck, dude? Like, I thought you couldn't go up. And I was like, well, I just couldn't afford any drinks. And she's like, okay. And I was like, so I guess you're dating Theo now? And she goes, Yeah, how'd you know? And I was like, well, I saw you all together. It doesn't take a you don't have to be a brain scientist to get. And she's like, brain, don't you mean rocket scientist? I was like, whatever. Anyway, back to the story. So I had to drag Minute to dime.

SPEAKER_01 10:56

Minute's a few.

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And the thing about New York restaurants even hit ones, they're tiny. Minute's huge. And I guess he's feeling kind of husky and self-conscious about his huskiness. And he he like barely fits in the restaurant. And then we have to squeeze into this tiny little miniature cafe table. Or you know, squeeze in t-shell with all these other like all these influence people and you know accurate and model I I realized immediately that this is the thing I want to take. Chris is kind of being quiet. And I'm like, what's up, man? And he's like, nah, nothing, dude. This is cool. I'm getting eye fucked by Jonah Hill. And I was like, no. I was like, Jonah's here?

SPEAKER_01 12:03

He's like, well, you Okay, so you're going to some kind of restaurant or something.

SPEAKER_02 12:08

It's the epicenter of the scene within the scene. Yeah, okay. Like in in at that point in the Lower East Side. It's like every kid with money and without money who's gonna be a star is there. And uh it was one of the places like you're just like, I'm not, you know, what the fuck? Like this place, I can't, I don't even want to go in there. He's dragging you there. Yeah, because Ted still was still like he was very good at like straddling the underground and then the like the fancier above ground earthlings. So he'd probably been on like five dates in there already. Ah, perfect. Um let's see if it locked up again. Um so this is more his element, even though you'll find that maybe it's not so much.

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You're sitting there, and then this happens.

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And Chris is kind of being quiet. And I'm like, what's up, man? And he's like, nah, nothing, dude. This is cool. I'm getting eye fucked by Jonah Hill. And I was like, no. I was like, Jonah's here? He's like, wait, Jonah's here? And I was like, yeah, I know Jonah. We go way back, which is true. Uh I skated for Hot Rod. Jonah grew up going to Hot Rod, and as a matter of fact, his movie mid-90s, which is very good, is about his authentic experience. He's not some fucking Hollywood person that wanted to make a movie about the coolest new thing. If he wanted to make a movie about the coolest new thing, he would have made a movie about gaming and Little League Baseball. He made that movie from the heart. Anyway, and I know him legit. So I look behind Chris's giant hulking husky shoulder, and I see, sure enough, Jovena Hill sitting at a table three tables away. And he looks over and sees me, and I say, hey Jovenah, and when I do this, I end up knocking over that carafe of water. From that tiny table onto Chris's camouflage cargo short wearing lap. I should mention that he's like twice as big as everyone in the cafe. He's wearing a sleeveless, like motorhead shirt, camo cargoes, or carrying skateboards, and I've just knocked a caraf of water onto his lap because I had to make a gesticulating point that I in fact did know Jonah Hill. Chris just gets up and leaves. And I try to act like everything's normal carrying on the conversation with Jonah, and he was like, Yeah, I'm actually doing a movie about uh the courthouse and growing up at Hot Rod. And I was like, that's cool. I'm sure it's gonna be great. And I think of that story, uh, and I think of how kind Chris was when he took me years later, probably a decade later, to go see Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and go skating at LES and get a sandwich a little further up Orchard Street. I think of what a what a good friend he is, not just for doing that with me on my lonely birthday, but also for not ripping my head off and turning my headless corpse upside down and pumping my legs until all all every last remaining drop of blood emptied from my decapitated stump of a neck, which he very well could have done and should have done at dimes way back in like 2013.

SPEAKER_02 15:47

Yep. That's a cute story. It was cute, it's adorable, and Ted is just uh a sweetheart for for that. Um but uh yeah, that was I don't know. I left I I just walk I left him there and I don't know what he did. He just sat at a table like he got dumped by his girlfriend, you know, and finished his meal after probably small talking with Jonah Hill in front of everybody. Yeah, it was a scene. It was like uh yeah, it was like a bull in a china shop, storms out. I walked out and just yelled, fuck, and then like went home. Like I was sitting in a chair with like it was I was it was like a pretty like bowl-shaped chair, so my balls were just in water, like I was so fucking wet. Yeah. Um, but yeah, that was the time uh it was like a rumor of this movie getting made, and I knew like pros that were like, Yeah, Jonah, I'm gonna play a cop. Like older pro retired pros that like Jonah had looked up to were like, hey man, can you be in a scene? Yeah. Um and then the movie ended up coming out.

SPEAKER_01 16:53

It was actually made it. When was this? 2021 or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 16:57

Something like that. They probably were like pre-production, right? He said this was 2019, so then it comes out like a year or two later. Yeah. Um but I think it was pretty pretty damn good.

SPEAKER_01 17:10

Um it was great. I mean, I think at that time everybody was waiting for an authentic skateboard movie. Yeah. Because there had been attempts.

SPEAKER_02 17:20

There's always an attempt every like five, ten years.

SPEAKER_01 17:23

Yeah, and it's just not happening. I remember when they did Street Dreams.

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I never even gave that a fucking moment.

SPEAKER_01 17:30

No, I I saw a little bit, but um, you know, it was the same talk. Oh my god, it's P-Rod. It's it's gonna be authentic. Yeah. Like uh, it's gonna be just like in real life. Yeah. But it wasn't, and uh, I guess that was also the um talk in the 80s with like Thrashin and all that.

SPEAKER_02 17:49

I feel like Thrashin is probably like a wild story, but it seems it to be set in a relatable uh for the time, a relatable like it's California, this is a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 17:59

Yeah, no, I mean it's it's a cool movie, but it's just like it doesn't really talk about what you feel growing up. Like true as mid-90s, dude. Can you move this chord a little bit? Because I think um Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:12

Um no, I think uh one thing that struck me was and I didn't see Street Dreams because it was an era of skateboarding when I was just like so disinterested. Skateboarding had gotten very like rich financially, and I think the the aim was to be rich and famous, and like you know, P Rod, God bless him, but like he was of a generation that was getting sponsored by like car companies, and yeah, and MTV was popping up building wealth on that. Yeah, and it was like a very like unrelatable situation for anybody that was actually skateboarding, and uh I also felt it was one of the most creatively I'm probably wrong, but for me it was like there was like a creative like deficit in skateboarding. It was just like find a spot, don't even turn or carve anywhere and just go through a trick list. So it was like a checklist kind of skating, yeah, um, instead of sort of a more creative time, which would have been like up till then in skateboard history. It was like a contest brain applied to skate spots. Um but yeah, I th I thought the movie was was really cool. It did have some nostalgia, like I hit me pretty immediately.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

But you must have just missed that then, I guess. Because you were in LA. No, I mean because it was shot in LA, right? Yeah, like LA Courthouse and the surrounding areas and all the Supreme guys were in it kind of or something.

SPEAKER_02 19:49

Yeah, because they needed people that were like age appropriate. Yeah. Um, and I thought it was cool that he didn't just get like he was ever like a famous movie star. Like I don't think there's really any real professional actors in the movie. It's kids.

SPEAKER_01 20:04

They later became sure, yeah. Like they all but one of the girls is in euphoria now and stuff, you know. Yeah, like but um the kid was amazing, he was good.

SPEAKER_02 20:15

Um, and I think if if you're casting kids for anything, it's like a real risky endeavor. And not just and then it's like all kids, you know.

SPEAKER_01 20:26

Yeah. Um and if you try to explain this to non-skaters who are listening, maybe I mean there's always like a younger guy um hanging out with older skaters in a crew. Yeah, there's I mean, often, uh at least in back in my day, it was I was the younger kid in some crews, and we had a younger kid in our crew later on and stuff, and they're always trying to adapt, and you you know, you try to foster them kind of without fucking them up. Yeah, I mean you probably fuck them up a little. Yeah, but but that's part of the charm, kind of that's yeah, and just the life journey.

SPEAKER_02 21:07

Like you gotta like dabble in dumb things. Um they get drunk for the first time. But for like non-skaters, it's like uh uh skating is such a structureless uh sport or lifestyle, hobby, passion, whatever, compared to sports where you're like, here's your age group, you're within your age group. Girls here, boys there. And uh and whatever. It's just like very structured, and I think there's like value to that. But in skating, it's just like a mess of people. There's self-policing, but it's not a structured sport. So you do get this wild spectrum of age, income. It's a relatively low cost sport, so you get like kids from fucked up situations, kids from really good situations, and they just all link up into like uh and then like weird stuff mostly good happens. Yeah. Um And I I haven't seen that in years, but it was burned in my head. Like it was a it was a good film. It was didn't like it wasn't Shakespeare, but it was a great window into a thing. You know?

SPEAKER_01 22:11

Yeah, it was something that you that I like longed for to kind of relive some of that mo those moments a little bit. Even though, you know, I did that in Sweden. It's it's you know, it's the same thing. It's like jumping fences, running from the cops, mischief, getting drunk with older people, you know, just like tragic uh family situations. It's like yeah, that's just something that always surrounds skateboarding.

SPEAKER_02 22:39

A lot of uh mistakes getting made.

SPEAKER_01 22:41

Yeah. Um, but it's just like you could apply a lot of those characters to your own friends back then, and that felt really cozy and nostalgic, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 22:52

Yeah, it's funny. I was talking to uh because this got compared to kids the movie, and I was talking to Leo Fitzpatrick when this came out, and he was the star of Kids, the Larry Clark Harmony Corinne movie that took place in New York, and he was chuckling. He was like, he's like, dude, this is actually what what it was, and the kids the movie was like science fiction. Like he was like, We didn't like it wasn't even like City Kids weren't even really operating like it it was portrayed in in that film. Yeah, it was a bit overkilling me with the partying. Yeah, he was like, it's all juiced up, it's like the insane version of everything, and um, and he was he felt like pretty impressed by it, which was kind of cool because his his film was sort of like this standard for like the lifestyle that someone just created on a pen and paper, you know, like a pad of paper with an idea, and everyone was like fucking super interested and then like kind of mortified, you know, like that movie made me want to move to New York and obsess over skating and partying and like you know, like trying to meet chicks, but yeah, it was like this like very like kind of unrealistic thing, and um, but the filming of that movie was so realistically shot that you believed it was almost a documentary, yeah, like a like an amazing documentary of things you didn't believe could exist. Yeah, for sure. And uh it was nice to hear he he was he was he he had some good things to say about it. Um but I think everything, yeah, like you said, it's it was just this universal that was the industry, it took place where the industry was, so there's a bit more like sponsored skaters, and there's like you know, a bit more um uh story to tell. But I guess that was just Jonah's what he absorbed.

SPEAKER_01 24:45

Um and I also remember like feeling that I was very authentic with the just hanging out, the nothingness, yeah. Like the just like the slow, hot days when you're just sitting on the ground and you know, and that still happens now in the skate shop. Yeah, okay. Like I got a little kid gang hang hanging out there every day. They're like you know, 10 to 13, maybe. And they their day just consists of you know finishing school, and then you just go out, you go to the shop. Maybe some somebody has like 10 kroners, like they have two dollars to spend. Yeah, and they just walk around all the like supermarkets and try to find the cheapest possible like soda, yeah, or like a cake, you know, like just craving sugar, and then they just sit. Yeah, and they skate and they sit, and like the days are so long, and you you just kind of invent your own language, kind of, and just you know, pranking each other, just talking so much shit.

SPEAKER_02 25:51

It was sort of like um uh a boredom as like a pastime, yeah. And it's you know, where you come up with like the prank culture, you come up with like tricks, you come up with inside jokes, because you're you're just like at 7-Eleven skating a curb and just sitting in like on dirty cement, just like well, I wonder what's gonna happen. And then you like see a girl or you see an old guy who's got a bad attitude, and then that spirals into like uh something.

SPEAKER_01 26:20

Yeah. Um they have so many inside jokes now, it's crazy. Yeah, and I really missed that because that meant that you have so much time, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:29

Like it's just you're but you're sort of like creating things because there's no there wasn't well back then there wasn't like a phone to just suck up downtime, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

True.

SPEAKER_02 26:39

Um, but no, I loved it. I thought it was cool. Um I think it was like the most caretaken in explaining it, yeah, you know, and not just being like, you're gonna be famous. I mean, there's there, there's like I remember they have like the one sponsored scare or the pro or something. Yeah. The the tall black kid who rides for Adidas. Um or some I forget, but like I thought the kids, like I knew some of those kids, and I didn't expect them to be in a movie, and I thought like Noquel did a great job. Yeah, he wasn't the greatest actor, but you like kind of believed it. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_01 27:13

Um, I mean, we definitely don't need another one now. It's it's done now, it's perfect. Yeah, we got it. Or in 20 like another skateboarding movie, or in 10 years, yeah, maybe like just to like sort of capture the new In 20 years, you can make a movie of how everything, you know, stopped being as potent as it was.

SPEAKER_02 27:36

And I didn't want to like it because I didn't have a backstory with Jonah Hill. I just was like, oh great, you know, here comes I didn't, and but the more I asked people, they were like, Yeah, I used to see it. And I remember once when I first visited LA, he I saw him like cruising around on a BMX over by Fairfax, and he had maybe done one movie, but like most people had it was Grandma's Boy, yeah. And uh he would was hanging out and like I think there there was a bar called the Dime, I uh coincidentally, or something on Fairfax, a little dive bar. And we'd be in there partying, and then you just look over, and it's the kid from Grandma's Boy, like trying to like lean into the conversation, you know, like he wasn't like a famous guy yet, and he was still had the brain of like, oh, there's a Tiba. Like, let me kind of like nudge and like laugh along, and then and then Grandma's boy was such a hit, like Atiba and Aka were like, dude, you're a fucking grandma's boy, like Atiba is a very famous skating photographer, yeah. Very, very famous, lovable uh personality in skating.

SPEAKER_01 28:38

And um I think we have to remember this when talking about skating that a lot of people have no idea what we're talking about, so sure. We have to be a more a little bit more inclusive.

SPEAKER_02 28:47

Uh sure, but um I mean it's a subculture, whatever. Uh posters, yeah. Like, I don't know. I I I I didn't wanna you're just protective of your little thing. You don't want someone else's version, you don't want to have a production monster tell retell your thing. And I thought it was like delicately done. Yeah. Um, and they had like cameos of everybody. There's people you can't see in the film that were there, like Donnie Barley was a cop, like Chico Brennan is all these like 90s pros were just were the cops that were chasing the kids out. They're just like random faces. I think Noquel they just panned to a frame where he's talking to a homeless man, and that's Dell the Funky Homo sapien.

SPEAKER_01 29:29

Oh, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:30

So like he was pulling some fuckers in, and like certain people you could spot, and then you know, they don't all make the final edit, but like he really did make an effort to say, Hey, this is about like you guys, can you please be in this? And they were all I remember Donnie was like, dude, so fucking cool. Oh my god, I'm like seeing everybody, we're dressed as cops, they're all doing selfies, like so. They clearly had some fun, and um I don't know, yeah, it was good.

SPEAKER_01 29:57

Yeah, it was good, it was close enough to my reality, and that's like all you need, basically.

SPEAKER_02 30:03

And I think it it paints a good picture for kids that don't uh could to see back to like that were born way after and can see back to like how things were and could be and maybe could never be.

SPEAKER_01 30:16

Yeah, for sure. So I liked it. I think that Ted asked us that as well. Yeah, I don't remember exactly what Ted asked. But that was in DM. But he asked us what we thought about the movie, and now you know Ted.

SPEAKER_02 30:31

Yeah, it was the job well done. And one thing that movie uh did kind of at the funniest time to like throw back to certain behavior was uh actually show how people talked in the 90s, where you know the kids are like, Well, you fucking gay, like blah blah blah blah blah. Like and I thought that was um I was like, damn, they're getting away with this right now because this came out right, you know, in the new world that's like governed by human resources, ladies. Like um, and and then people were like, Well, how could you let the kids talk like this? And I and obviously it was like, Well, that's how they talked, like what would you do? Uh you gotta write dialogue, you know. Um and that kind of uh I guess kind of leads into like what uh which I disc something I discovered a few days ago. Um which made me rethink my opinions of my arch nemesis. Who is your arch nemesis? In my head, I've been battling young lean's fame for years. Arch nemesis, and sometimes I win the battle and sometimes I lose the battle, but the war is not yet over. Or maybe it is. Maybe I'm waving the white flag today.

SPEAKER_01 32:03

Okay, interesting. Yeah, I'm uh looking forward to hearing.

SPEAKER_02 32:06

Because I saw I always had a problem with Young Lean because I was a hundred years older than people that like he was aiming at with his music, and I had come from like you know, Wu-Tang clan music and Slayer and Guns N' Roses, and just like uh that that era or that style of music. And so when all the Young Lean stuff and the and the all the derivatives started to pop up, I was like, is this serious? Is this a joke? Like, what the fuck are we doing here? Um so I kind of didn't really pay attention to him, and then I would always like get a chuckle like when I'd see him pop up, and then it but then I started to see like he was universally loved by like very creative powerhouses. Um, and I still was like, I don't fucking get this, dude. Uh makes you question yourself, kind of kind of, but like also just I you're just like, well, it's not for me, and like I don't have to like everything in an age where everybody has to like intensely love everything that's ever happened, you know, or comes out. So I was uh very um skeptical of the young lean thing, you know, just being a grump, whatever, kind of standard. And um recently, but I have like I've met him kind of I've met him at your shop, I've met him around Stockholm like once, at least I think twice, and very like I actually said someone introduced us, very friendly, polite guy, didn't have an air of like uh I'm the shit, you should fuck off kind of thing. Um, and that was kind of wearing down my defenses. I wanted him to be a dick, yeah, like so I could be right or just have more ammo.

SPEAKER_01 33:48

No, I I get it.

SPEAKER_02 33:49

And um, so I'd seen him around town, and uh I've seen him very patiently handling conversations with intense people that are just so hyped that they're talking to him, and I was like, shit, yeah, this guy might be okay. Yeah, because like you know, when you can gracefully handle those things, you you're all you're like a good might be a good person.

SPEAKER_01 34:10

Or you've just been famous for a long time.

SPEAKER_02 34:12

Yeah, or you just know how to handle yourself. Either way, it's like you're doing your job well, you're being professional. Um but I never got the music, and I didn't also really want to give it any like much of my time as I only have so many seasons left in my life, uh, so many beach days. Yeah, who knows? I couldn't burn them on a fucking sad boy rapper.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:34

Uh, anyways, so based on an actual deficit of any knowledge of the guy, I was over it. Um, but then this new video came out, and uh I was like, oh, like I saw a clip and I was like, ah, it's looking pretty good. Like this is I didn't hear the music yet. So and I saw this little someone posted it, and and they were like, This is like uh, you need to watch this video. It's like young men reclaiming their place in society. And I was like, What the fuck? Okay, like that's not very Swedish from my perspective um, because this is a very like progressive society. I'm still having conversations with men my age about their you know toxic masculinity, and I'm just sort of like, okay, whatever. Um, so I was a little shocked by that caption. So I went and watched it, and uh it's fucking amazing. It's absolutely fucking amazing. Um I haven't seen it yet. I heard there has been talk. Bangs, and it's like so well made. There's uh the way I saw it, which is not because I'm some fucking genius video critic, but I saw it as like they took Dead Poet Society and Fight Club and squished it together. It made him the the Tyler Durden or the Dead Poet Society teacher, and he's sort of like empowering it. Felt like you could have played Thin Lizzie's The Boys Are Back in Town over the video, and you'd just be like, Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 36:11

Like I heard it's like based on the uh Rockstar game.

SPEAKER_02 36:15

I see that I don't know what that is. You never played that.

SPEAKER_01 36:18

No, I see maybe it's so funny because that game has been in my like brain the past month. And the other day I found it on App Store. Like it you can play like a iPhone.

SPEAKER_02 36:31

You can do a phone game, okay.

SPEAKER_01 36:32

Yeah, and it's about like uh a book like a problematic kid being sent to uh private school.

SPEAKER_02 36:38

That makes sense. I mean, that's uh in line with like these preps.

SPEAKER_01 36:41

And that it's the whole aesthetic, and he looks just just like Young Lee, the main character. So uh But I maybe maybe it's not, maybe it's just like I'm not paying attention to this shit.

SPEAKER_02 36:50

I don't want to play video games, but I can see maybe bullies pulling from these situations because these you know that's 20 years old and 40 years old, those two movies. Um, but it is like it's a video game. No, I mean the um the two movies.

SPEAKER_01 37:05

Oh, okay. Yeah, those are oh yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 37:08

Yes, the video, the video game is based on movies, but they're like they're both stories about like empowering young men. Yeah. In a time when it's just like uh when when like men were starting to be seen as like just the the cause of all problems, you know. And um this video had it's like I was like pumping my fist watching it, and the music's good. I usually have a problem. No, but I usually have a problem with young lean's vocals, and like this just hit. Um I don't know. Do do we want to watch it?

SPEAKER_01 37:41

Yeah, let's go. Let's go. Maybe we can watch it on this. I'm gonna try it.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

If not, like we can just like cruise it on my phone for now.

SPEAKER_01 37:50

Yeah, you know what? If you can you screen record it the whole thing. Like, and then maybe we could like because it's a long video, right?

SPEAKER_02 38:00

It could be, yeah. I think it's yeah, it's it's like a stairway to heaven.

SPEAKER_01 38:03

But let's not watch because I heard it's a short movie as well. Like, let's not watch that. So what do you want to do? Just mute it kind of turn the volume down, turn the volume down, screen record it, and then we can pause kind of and talk. I don't know. Maybe you show me what you want to show me.

SPEAKER_02 38:24

Um so to me, it seems like a bunch of like beaten-down young men, and the big dog shows up, and he's just like, you need to fucking get it together. Um and he sort of puts them through these like series of like, we're getting tough, you know, like this isn't like you know, embrace the monster. Um I don't know, it could be like a Jordan Peterson thing, but it's just this, it's just like the chaos of being like a uh a teenage boy.

SPEAKER_01 39:01

I'm pretty sure Young Lee is not into Jordan Peterson.

SPEAKER_02 39:04

No, but like, you know, everyone, there's all like through this whole time of like men are bad, like there's people, he's one of those people that talked about like, well, boys are little monsters that have to become the monsters and then restrain themselves and be compassionate. Um but it brought back like the 80s and the 90s for me with like these are the things that happen in the movies reflecting um the it should be recording.

SPEAKER_01 39:28

Yeah, I need just need more light.

SPEAKER_02 39:30

Oh um because I can't really see it. But it uh it just sort of brings back that like um let's raise hell thing, you know, like from the 80s, where it's just like be fucking insane and like get in trouble and then deal with it. Um and uh it's shot like gorgeous. Uh there's like choreographed dancing, which doesn't make the boys look like you know, ultra femme ballet modern dancers, they're they're still like masculine. And I'm not on some like hate women thing, but I've lived long enough where I've seen like this villainization of like boys, um, and and they're left to figure life out, sort of like denying their human nature. Um, and this is just fun to see. Like he's daring kids to take chances and take risks. There is like bullying, um, which is part of life, but at the end, it seems like he sort of like raises everybody out of their graves and um helps them. It's the fight, it's fight club. He's like Tyler Durden. You know, he's in like there's a there's a final shot where he's in a basement and it's that shot from the fight club of like Tyler Durden standing there with his crew, and they're all like these empowered guys who have like reclaimed themselves. Um, and the jam is good, it's a knock and jam. Um but I mean I I when I moved here, like I was at a playground with my son who was like three, and I looked over and I saw another boy he was playing with, and the boy had a t-shirt on that said, Inside this boy is a good person. And I was like, Oh fuck, dude, is that how far we've gone? Like, way off the cliff. Like, you're saying inherently like boys are terrible, and this kid has to like ascend out of into like a asexual, like politically correct human resource product. Um, and I was pretty shocked. Um, and it kind of like shook me for the rest of the day. I was just like, what's happening? Um, so I thought this was great.

SPEAKER_01 41:44

It was just like, you know, like it could be like the free bird solo, like you know, like it's just this like ah, like I mean, maybe you are um kind of right, but to me it feels like it's just like you know, it's a private school, it's like posh kids being told what to do, kind of by their parents.

SPEAKER_02 42:13

So they're like kind of like beaten down by Yeah, but not by society necessarily.

SPEAKER_01 42:18

It's more like to me, it feels like they're like rich kids being sent to a private school, and they're just you know, it's almost like a jail kind of, and then somebody with like an attitude kind of shows up. Yes. We have the same one, like there's like almost a Swedish version of this. This is Swedish, yeah, yeah, but it's he's an international artist, and it's not set in Sweden. Okay, yeah. You know what I mean? So but we have a Swedish movie called Unskun, like the the evil, and it's based on uh like one of our biggest writers, um, youth in a private school. Okay, and it's kind of the same setup, like he goes there and he's really good at fighting.

SPEAKER_02 42:56

Look at the dancing, it's fucking sick.

SPEAKER_01 42:57

Yeah, no, this is great. Um, so he just he just comes in and he's just like a he comes in and he like establishes domination over the bigger bullies, kind of yeah, because it's um a lot of prison movie, yeah. Like, yeah, they're scared of the the elders and the rules that are set up inside the school, kind of, and he's he kind of you know shakes the whole um establishment there.

SPEAKER_02 43:26

Well, what I took from this by the end was that um he brought them to life.

SPEAKER_01 43:31

Yeah, no, I mean it looks like it for sure.

SPEAKER_02 43:34

No, it's like this it's this like he's livening everybody up, yeah. And um by being a little devil, or just yeah, I mean he he brings it, he brings an extreme masculinity to the point where like it's a little self destructive, but I think that's like normal for teenage boys because they're trying to figure out like how to balance all these things in their brain. Um, but I feel like it it goes back to like how the Kids talked in the mid-90s videos or movie, and then it goes back to like the 80s, and it's just like being a teenage boy is like you get roughed up, you do some roughing up, and then you start to like refine yourself. Um, but I don't know, I I I did not want to like this guy either. And I'm not saying this is a summary of his existence, but I just thought it was like a really well-made music video.

SPEAKER_01 44:26

For me, it hits things that I don't know that he was thinking of, but watching society go through the decades, it felt good to like see something where it's like it's okay to be a fucking kind of like um But I mean that then that means that he's a great artist because he can touch you know all ages kind of motherfucker, yeah. Yeah, because I mean I'm sure that somewhere a 14-year-old is like, oh my god, school sucks so much. Yeah. I wish that like somebody like that could come off. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Um, so I mean, if it's and that for me it was Fight Club. Makes me think, yeah, no, I agree.

SPEAKER_02 45:05

Not that Fight Club, like, but I was I could see this, you know, the parallel um of some like over-the-top, unrealistically like terrorist kind of guy, sort of freeing guys that are like stuck in their cubicles and have no purpose and have had to like train their humanity out of their brains.

SPEAKER_01 45:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:26

Um, so yeah, I don't know, man. I like that he's like got in shape too. He's a little less of like he's lost his baby fat and he looks mad serious.

SPEAKER_01 45:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:36

Um, um no, but I was I'm gonna watch it properly later, but uh but can you give me a quick like run through on this guy's like the the the career, the short version, because I saw him when he was like a little kid and I thought it was like a like a pre parody of a rap video.

SPEAKER_01 45:56

I mean this is um in the previous episode we talked about me doing a superhero interview, and at about in the in the same time, I think this is 2018 or something. No, it's way no no, it's way earlier. It's 20 uh 14, 2015 maybe. When he sort of popped, yeah, and at the same time Vice was a pretty big thing, yeah. And I think they made his they made the first interview with him.

SPEAKER_03 46:27

Really?

SPEAKER_01 46:28

Like over Skype, I think. Okay. And um he they did a show in Malmo, which was like one of the first shows ever, I think. And I saw that show because we were all like, oh my god, this guy is not real, you know.

SPEAKER_02 46:46

So you guys thought that too.

SPEAKER_01 46:48

I mean, we it we we were into the kind of um question like is this a joke or is he actually like trying to be a white rapper doing like little bee stuff? Yeah. Um just this whole bucket hat drugs things, because he know. Yeah, and that's how it started, I guess. Like everyone just wondering if it was real or not, and then it turned out to be real, I guess. Yeah, um, and then he did that for a long time. I mean, obviously, here he's like the hometown hero. Yeah, I think that's cool. Uh and it's all I mean, I have another thesis. I like I have another theory that um before him doing interviews like international, the kids were not speaking swinglish. Okay, and I think that the whole sad boy um thingy changed how kids today talk English. Really? Because before then, everybody was talking like this. It was cool to kind of sound American, and there's like two camps instead of like a valley girl. Either you're like, either you talk like this in the English class with the teacher, or you talk like this. That's kind of how we talked when we were in high school.

SPEAKER_02 48:13

Small voice. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:14

There were two two versions. There were never this one who spoke like this, you know, when it was very clear that you are Swedish, speak English English. So that was But Jung Lin always talked like that in interviews. It was like, hello, my name is Young Lin. I'm from Stockholm.

SPEAKER_02 48:31

That would be so that's honestly how he is.

SPEAKER_01 48:33

Yeah, that's how they all talk. But that is also now how everyone talks. I see. In uh at least the younger people.

unknown 48:41

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 48:41

They don't even bother to it's like a French accent thing. Okay. They don't they don't even bother to try and to hide where they're from now. And I think that's that's cool. Yeah, I mean it's uh I don't know if it's cool or not, but it's definitely language language has so you're saying they're not trying to s they're not imitating, they're just like this is how we are. Yeah, they're just trying to be themselves, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 49:05

I think that is cool.

SPEAKER_01 49:08

Um I don't know if that answers your question, but but he's he's been around long around for a long time. Yeah. And uh he has been doing the same thing, and I guess that's respectable.

SPEAKER_03 49:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:21

But at the same time, they're doing like punk he's got different yeah, he's got like three or four projects that are really good.

SPEAKER_02 49:29

That kind of um there was another interview I saw with him like a year or two ago, and it was that you know that guy on the subway in New York who like just holds up a little mic and you sit there and you get hot takes is that what it is? Yeah, yeah. And he did that, and it was another like crack in my wall, my defenses because he sounded like damn, yeah. It was like shit, I've been maybe I've been wrong.

SPEAKER_01 49:57

Yeah, um, but that's maturing, you know. Yeah, we all understand that shit. I'm not I don't know that much about the world anymore. Like, I guess it's okay to like some things, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:12

Um but I'd be uh I'll be interested to see where he goes uh now that he's everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 50:19

Yeah, I mean he is he's been on top for a while.

SPEAKER_02 50:22

Yeah. And I think it's great that like the hometown has like a big, big uh hero in that world. Yeah, it's good.

SPEAKER_01 50:29

It's like uh Batman.

SPEAKER_02 50:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:32

We have one of the top ones.

SPEAKER_02 50:34

Because it's it's funny seeing I've seen like people here that like work in the industry, and I've been in the room where like young lean's there, and there still are like full-grown adults that like kind of can't they they're like turned mechanical as soon as he's right there and he's being what I can see as like fairly normal, and they're like grown people.

SPEAKER_01 50:54

Yeah, they're like the adults kind of want to be his friend for career purposes. I would imagine he's like quite a gatekeeper for people in their brains, but the kids are like I think that he is kind of like Batman to them, you know, because he said no, but he I mean the whole style, the aesthetic, the whole, you know, there's like a whole um uh dressing style. How do you what do you call that? Like a fashion style named after them, like drainer. Oh, there is. I heard the drain gang.

SPEAKER_02 51:24

Yeah, that's that's but that's that's the whole like visual aesthetic, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:28

Okay, and that's how not only the you know the 25-year-olds dress, yeah. They was kind of raised on you know adapting that style, but now the young kids are also dressing like that. Like the the 12-year-olds in my shop.

SPEAKER_02 51:43

No way, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:44

And they're like what's that look to him? He's a god. What's that look? Because not all Americans are gonna have it's kind of like the Y2K aesthetic mixed with like emo and um streetwear, kind of, you know, it could be like a bathing ape t-shirt with D-squared jeans, okay, like skinny pants all of a sudden, and then high top sneakers and like an a weird ironic beanie. Yeah. And then just you know, looks like you're doing drugs, basically. Yeah. You know, one one character that is a good example is like um Jesse from uh Breaking Bad.

unknown 52:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 52:29

You remember him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You dress like like you skate for Osiris, basically.

SPEAKER_02 52:34

Okay, you're like a DC Osiris guy.

SPEAKER_01 52:37

Yeah, but it's not that rap, it's kind of the later stage, like um 2005 Osiris.

SPEAKER_02 52:44

I mean, I do see that look on some of the skate kids here for sure. It's very noticeable.

SPEAKER_01 52:48

I don't know if it's hit in the States, but because I'm not there, but but whether you like it or not, he has done uh a lot for the the culture here.

SPEAKER_02 52:58

When I saw him at your shop, I was impressed by the fact that he was rolling with I mean, he's like as famous as Kanye almost, and he's just like in your store. Everybody's got something they want to say. Everyone's being nice, but they're like they got that desperate energy.

SPEAKER_01 53:14

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_02 53:15

And um he was at your shop just hanging out for an event and like supporting buying stuff.

SPEAKER_01 53:20

Yeah, but that's because we have I mean it's a small town still. Like you know people, people know each other.

SPEAKER_02 53:25

That's good. Yeah, he showed up for you guys and your project with the the Bassette girls, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:32

His little sister still. Shout out to Miriam, she's also a listener.

SPEAKER_02 53:36

But it's like the weight you I got some weight, I'm gonna throw it at this because I like these guys and it and like I'm showing support. It's just good. Yeah, it's it's like I I guess I love this guy.

SPEAKER_01 53:45

It's nice here. I mean, I always imagined that if if I were to become famous like that, yeah, I would all I would try at least try to do the same thing, you know, to stay in my hometown and like everybody thinks that.

SPEAKER_02 53:57

It's easy to not do.

SPEAKER_01 53:58

Um yeah, but it's it's I mean, it it's hard to do. Like how what are some good examples? Keanu Reeves, good example. Theoretically, I think. He's amongst men still.

SPEAKER_02 54:09

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:10

Or um who else do we got? Like there's not gonna be super famous people walking the streets.

SPEAKER_02 54:17

There's not, I mean, it it's it's hard.

SPEAKER_01 54:19

It's the it's like an Bill Murray is kind of like that.

SPEAKER_02 54:22

Kind of, but he's also like a traveling space alien. Yeah. Like he he's in his own extra. Like he takes that and then adds Bill Murray to it. Um where it it sort of feeds back to.

SPEAKER_01 54:32

But you you know, you get what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 54:35

No, it's like an idea you're like, I would never change, I would be right there. You know, I'd be I'll help like I'll help build the thing, you know, and then everyone's like, Yeah, I got like a meeting, I got a meeting and like a plane to catch. And uh it's great when you can see people that like are still there on the ground floor with the the peasantry.

SPEAKER_01 54:54

For sure. And but that's I think if you've been battling like um mental health, I think that you quickly kind of understand that staying in the present and staying like in the life that you once had instead of leaving it to like towards Hollywood and all you know, all that the finer rooms.

SPEAKER_02 55:14

Was that one of his things? He went through depression or something. Yeah, yeah, it was. He had a time quit playing with drugs and alcohol, right? Yeah, which is great. Wonderful. Um but um well, that was my ode to young Lean.

SPEAKER_01 55:28

Well, I'm uh my my glazing and sure he will be pleased that you're not no longer gonna assault him ready to stab him, jab him right in the gut. Uh wonderful. Yeah. I'm happy that you're um you're now uh one of us. You like him.

SPEAKER_03 55:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:51

I found a map. Oh yeah. I found the map. Almost I mean the map almost. Um in the previous episode we um spoke about Vecdan, the guardian, the superhero that I interviewed. I was not ready for that. With my friend. And you know, when we were done, I um I kind of felt like I wasn't really done. I was wondering what happened to him. Like, is he still active? Like, maybe he's still patrolling. I don't know. Because he disappeared for a while, but you never know with these guys. They're in a shadows. They never yeah. They're in the shadows waiting.

SPEAKER_02 56:34

One last job.

SPEAKER_01 56:35

Yeah. One last villain to stop. But um, so I was googling him and then I found a weird website called You know there's a Wikipedia for everything. Almost. Yeah, there's specific. There's like photo.wikipedia. Yeah. You know, for cameras or fruits, I guess. Anything. Birds. But then I found the real life superhero wiki.

unknown 57:04

Alright.

SPEAKER_01 57:05

And I thought that we could go through this together. Just um you know, scout it a little bit, see what we find.

SPEAKER_02 57:14

See where not to commit villainous assaults in the cities.

SPEAKER_01 57:19

Exactly. And like so we can warn our criminal friends out there.

SPEAKER_02 57:24

Yep. Like, don't go here. Don't come around here, brother. Okay, let's see here if we're cool.

SPEAKER_01 57:29

So this is the main page.

SPEAKER_02 57:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:33

So basically, you know, it's a world map of all current uh real-life superheroes, the active ones.

SPEAKER_03 57:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 57:45

Um, so when they're done fighting crime, I guess they report it, and or if no one sees them for a couple of months, then they're no longer here. So I was I was thinking that we could just like you know, scroll around a little bit. Yeah. I noticed that in Japan, there's a lot of gotta be some active members. Yeah. Um here's the world map.

SPEAKER_02 58:11

Okay, big in North America.

SPEAKER_01 58:14

North America. I mean, you can see here.

SPEAKER_02 58:17

Wow. Oh, the closer you get, the more pop up. So there's way more. There's a guy in Alaska. Where's that, Juno?

SPEAKER_01 58:24

You want to look at the Alaska one?

SPEAKER_02 58:26

See, I bet you he's colorful.

SPEAKER_01 58:27

Raven.

SPEAKER_02 58:28

Oh, it's a it's a her, sorry. Sorry to presume.

unknown 58:33

Raven.

SPEAKER_02 58:33

Raven. What do you got for me, Raven?

SPEAKER_01 58:36

And maybe you could read some of her stats here.

SPEAKER_02 58:39

Okay. She is a she ha it has her dimensions, which I find a little superfluous.

SPEAKER_01 58:50

I mean, there's not a lot of things here. Let's go back.

SPEAKER_02 58:53

Okay, go back. You know, Alaska's a simple place. Raven is covering Alaska. You're gonna find in a big city, someone's gonna want to like broadcast bigger.

SPEAKER_01 59:03

Let's go to some place weird. Uh Spain, perhaps? Espana. What does it say? Now I can't see it.

SPEAKER_02 59:12

Oh, that's that's Madrid. And it's active. Status active. Mandrake. Thomas Mandrake. Oh. To Newsman. Oh, this dude's yes. He's on the roof. He's on the roof of a skyscraper just casually catching rays.

SPEAKER_01 59:27

He's lying on the edge of a building.

SPEAKER_02 59:29

That is a state of the street.

SPEAKER_01 59:30

Okay, what does it say here? Does it say any like stats?

SPEAKER_02 59:33

Uh, it's got his dimensions, which I don't understand what that has to do with anything, because it's not like his height and his bust. Um, lying on the ledge of a building. Oh, that's like the dimensions of the image.

SPEAKER_01 59:46

Is there bio? But there should be some kind of like what he's using. Oh, here we go. For example, this guy, Grey Shadow.

SPEAKER_02 59:57

Okay, where is he from?

SPEAKER_01 59:58

He's up North England. Alright. Uh alias Neo. Identity is secret.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:09

Specializes in crime prevention, homeless outrage, East Lot East Lothian. Oh, it's called Edinburgh.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:17

Team, he's in the Astrals.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:21

So then you could see his affiliates right here.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:24

Actions. Anonymous.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:26

Oh, she's a it's a her. Sorry. Okay. Gender is female.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:30

So she calls the cops on stuff and helps homeless people. Gender, female, black boots. Oh, outfit, black boots, black jeans, black t-shirt, black jacket, black jumper, black and red mask with LED goggles. Alright, sister. Equipment, cell phone, notepad, and pen. The greatest weapon a cop has is a notepad and pen. A tablet, portable charger, torch, flashlight, abilities, making Ethernet cables and hiding. I like it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:08

So that was more info. Go to another one. Yeah, let's let's let's see what's going on what's going on in London.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:14

Siberia or something. Who's this guy?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:16

Oh. White Knight. Oh, he's from the Isle of White. The White Knight.

unknown 1:01:23

Oh, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:24

He's cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:26

And then you press there.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:27

Oh, and that's okay. So the White Knight. That's his logo. Identity secret. Alderigo, not available category. Location, Isle of White, active status. He's part of the Justice Alliance initiative. Physical description, male, outfit, motocross armor, helmet, goggles, gloves, utility belt, blue and black. Symbol is the WK for White Knight. He keeps his equipment and abilities on the low.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:52

White Knight appeared on Facebook in December of 2018, announcing shortly thereafter that he had been made division commander of the JAYs in UK division. That must be Alpha. The Justice Alliance initiative.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:07

Great.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:08

I mean, he's there.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:11

I wonder what's going on out there. Let's let's find somebody fucked up. There's an Australian. He's probably juicy. Australia? Oh. He's probably something to chew on. Oh my god. Captain Australia. Captain Australia. How did I guess? Okay, let's get into it. Fuck yeah. Look at him. Hey, he looks like an older gent, too. Yeah. What's going on here, though? His symbol, his like chest logo is just an at sign.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:42

Category, crime fame. He's from Brisbane, Australia.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:44

Alter he goes, Simon Harvey, Brisbane, status active, foes. His foe is crime. Actions, crime fighting, gender, male. Outfit. Green hoodie with a yellow, with yellow wing lids, colors green, white, yellow, symbol, and a an apper set, which is the at symbol for all you TikTokers. Utility belt. Oh, mace, not like the not like the medieval mace, but he's just got some pepper spray for that ass. And then he's got a Swiss Army knife, first aid kit, army canteen, flashlight, iPhone with GPS and camera. He's up to date with the tech, affinity with animals, and photographic memory. He sounds pretty trusty.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:26

But he is slightly older. I wonder what he's like. He's got the close combat. The wisdom.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:31

He might have dad rage. That might be an ability that you often overlooked, but comes in pretty sweet.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:38

He uses his photographic memory to like bring back times when his kids fought him.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:43

He just has that dad muscle rage.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:46

He's cool. Let's go ahead and go to Japan, maybe. Should we do that? Like a shinobi kind of character. Because here we have a lot.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:53

I mean, they're probably literally holding a katana.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:57

Look, they're like perfectly set up.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:59

Is that Tokyo right there?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:00

No, Tokyo is Tokyo. What's the one? Isn't that Tokyo?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:05

I feel like they're all they just dress like the same.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:07

They're in a circle. Risk runner? Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:10

Oh, such other people get in there. Risk runner. Oh, it's so cool. Probably they gotta have the coolest outfits. Yeah, of course. Japanese really know how to do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:19

Where did you just print?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:23

It was always like in the left under the photo somewhere. That's where your fingers kept touching.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:29

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:30

Oh, he might be too low profile. Is that it?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:32

He's saying he's not taking any risk.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:34

The triads are in China, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:37

Okay. The Yakuza is the is the Japanese movie. Oh, what's this fucking guy's name? Crimson Fist! Yes! And his jacket is like a racing motorcycle jacket.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:51

Why can't we see anything more? Oh that no, I pressed here.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:54

Yeah, you're on the left side of the screen, and then you get like the button. Oh, here we go.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:58

Look, this is his crew. Hero Stark. This is the Oh my god, that's so cool. Which one's your dog? I mean, Stark looks the most aggressive, but this kid as well.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:13

The guy on the left seems like he's half in, half out.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:18

Hybrid jokers, is that them? Crimson Fists. That must be the guy.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:22

That's the crew. But go back to uh the guy we were looking at. Let's check him out. Category community service, Osaka. Um the hybrid jokers, and then the affiliate is green. Green is like an environmental.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:39

I like Stark.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:40

Um outfit black and blue, tokasatsu, hero suit, colors black and metallic blue, symbol none. It's got an Instagram account.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:49

Oh I guess that oh fuck. Yes, submit.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:58

Submit. Let us back in.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:00

I guess all of those guys are in Osaka then, the hybrid jokers. So let's go ahead and go to is this Tokyo?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:09

I feel like Tokyo's like this way, but Spark? Get in there. I never seen. He's pretty cool. He's that photo, he's telling you what's happening. He's, you know, he's like, you don't do that again. He's pointing, he's wagging his finger. Okay. I mean there's not a lot of info. Well, they can't give out everything.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:32

Okay, let's put it in the back. But what I want to know is if you can like Tokyo then.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:36

You know how like the three amigos, they like they send a letter saying, Can you come help us? The great three amigos.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:44

Skull Oh, I thought it said skull crush.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:46

Should you contact these guys for help? Dude. Imagine just walking on the street with a cup of coffee and that guy's like guarding. Alright, get into his bio.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:58

Skullrouser.

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Skullrouser. Tokyo community service status active.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:09

Nexus Forever. He's his team.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:10

Alias, Skull Warrior.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:13

They clean litter in the streets and waterways of Tokyo.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:17

Community litter cleanups. That's one of his actions. Um equipment litter picker. So he looks like he's ready to take on anybody in Mortal Kombat.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:27

He wants to crush skulls.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:28

Primary focus is crushing trash.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:32

Thrash breakers.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:33

Get in there. Get in there immediately.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:37

That's more that that's Skull Rushers. That's the crew. It must be. This guy looks amazing. Oh yeah. Who's that?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:47

Click the button.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:48

Wait. No, that's Crimson Fist. Thrash Breakers. I guess that's just the gang. Can you contact? Oh.

unknown 1:07:58

Whoa. Wowie.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:03

Okay. That's I think that's gonna go in a mark. Purification, Superwheel.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:11

He's gotta Puro alias Joker. His name is Purification. Identity Secret, Category Community Service, Tokyo, Status Active, Male, Outfit, Clown Outfit, Colors, Rainbow, Equipment, Little Picker, Litter Picker. So they're just they're cleaning the streets up very literally. Hmm. Damn, they're so cool. But can you get these guys like, hey, I got a problem? Can you come help? Is there like a reach out service? If there's like a bat signal? That's essentially, yeah, what I should have said. Oh somebody in Africa? Let's go South. That's actually South America. It's not actually.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:51

Oh, yeah, okay. Sorry. It's a similar shape though. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:55

Is there anybody down in the substarn?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:58

He's in Para in Brazil. Let's get in there. Which means stop as well. Para para Stop Man.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:06

Um what's his name? Paraman.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:08

Paraman. What does he do? Okay. Oh, can you please just read this with a cool voice?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:17

Oh, okay. So this is his history. I truly walk throughout the city and times to other states, but in my city I make videos showing how the situation of people who have no voices is. I am the voice of them. Show the disaster in health, and education, in public safety, and basic sanitation, which is precious. Making new families suffer with all of this, and those who suffer more with it are our children. Um that's pretty noble. His activity, his actions brings awareness to social and environmental issues. Outfit, a red, and some of the translations are a little choppy, but um he's got a symbol on his chest, mesh eye goggles, body armor, red blue, symbol stylized P with a circle, equipment not available, abilities, MMA, Tai Chi, Kung Fu, Chow Len, and first aid.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:09

This is what I was looking for. It seems like no one fights, but he could fight.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:14

He claims he can.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:15

I mean, he's in he's in he's in Brazil. He claims he can.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:19

You think he goes to the favela just like I mean, if he's got a YouTube channel or Instagram, like he's probably doing something kind of positive, like showing. Hopefully, it's not like poverty porn, but it's like showing. Well, we gotta fix some of this stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:35

That's it. Okay, let's go to New York then. See, yeah, let's do last one.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:39

Last one, yeah, because this is and then you'll find my picture. Where are we going?

unknown 1:10:43

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:44

Just this whole thing was leading the entire concept of the show is a leading. Where is New York? New York is like in this little zone right there. Brunswick. So there's like a Staten Island guy, and that's Method Man. And then there's downtown Manhattan. Let's see what's what's going on there. New York Initiative. Let's get in there.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:05

That sounds boring.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:06

I want to say. Oh, there's a couple in Brooklyn.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:08

Devil. Bones.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:13

Get in there. Go, go, go. Oh. Yeah, he's got serious access to costume. Alright. Vital statistics. Hero is named Bones, alias Bones with like a Greek.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:30

Oh, he's a cyber guy.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:32

Identity secret. Uh location, Brooklyn, New York. Brooklyn in the house. Team New York Initiative. Affiliates Apex and Berivell and Devil. Oh, those are his boys. Uh outfit style. Or girls, remember. Boys meaning homies. Uh true. Abilities medical student, parkour practitioner. So he's probably fit and he's a couple of things. But what about the cyber division? Stop a choking.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:58

He's a member of the NYI. New York Initiative. So he's like a hacker. Gallery? No, that's it.

unknown 1:12:07

Oh dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:10

I just wanted to really f I just wanted to find someone who like actually fights. Sig. What's the other one? Let's do one more. He looks pretty aggressive. He looks strong.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:32

Specialty throwing people.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:35

Exactly. Breaking bones. They're fairly new, this gang. 2021 they started. Right during COVID.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:44

That's actually when everything went fucking haywire in New York. Ex-military? Yep. Yeah. Fencing, survival, navigation, topography, and archery. He looks like a guy you want to stand next to when the shit is a fan. Yeah. Um good crew photo.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:01

That's definitely one of their girlfriends.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:03

Yeah. She has the mark of chaos.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:06

Nice. That's gangster.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:08

Well, okay, I guess this is.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:10

That was cool. You could dive in there. You could go deep in the door.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:13

Yeah, and if you want to go into the whole superhero thingy, it's wiki.com.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:26

Yeah, that's good. That is a world. That is a world.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:31

Yeah. Um. Well, that was my thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:35

I think that was a fun, fun topic. Um, well, we did episode 11, and we have forgotten to mention our sponsor. I hope still is our sponsor.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:50

We'll see when we go there to Bundagotan 58.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:53

Yeah, if they shut us down, Chao Na, because I've built a great appetite for feasting. And I might even try a cold beer next time we go. Oh, yeah. Just because they have cold beers. Cold, icy little.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:08

And also wine. They got a new fridge. Uh I saw it being uh placed in there. Uh sometimes I drink a single. You know this soda? Single bottle of wine. Single.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:22

Singo.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:23

Zingo. No. It's like a fanta, the European Fanta. Okay. Very tasty. Um, but get down there, chow na.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:32

They get the outdoor chairs for the Dons and the Kapos.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:37

Um, where you can stand there, you can sit there all day as long as you keep eating, and you can accept packages and tributes from the garbage men that come by with the gifts. True. And um the payments.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:48

And also dumplings. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Very tasty dumplings with plum sauce.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:56

Sweet plum sauce. They had a good beef broth soup of some kind, like a ramen that was, or a pho, kind of a Thai pho. Doesn't this make you hungry? It was cracking. It was cracking. Um, but that was a great episode.

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