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10. Man eats an airplane, self surgery, Münich, drinking poison, apple pay pranks & vigilantes

Maximum Impact Season 1 Episode 10

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Chris returns from his mingletrip to Germany and describes the more cleaner part of Europe. Per has been under the knife and can’t move. The guys discuss eating things you’re not suppose to and deep dive into the late Michel Lotito who amongst other things ate an entire airplane. Also Tiktokpranks and Swedish vigilanteism.

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Episode 10. Here we go. It's a big deal, everybody. Welcome back to the Maximum Impact Show. It's episode 10. Wow. I didn't realize I was supposed to dress as nice as Pear. He looks stunning. Thank you, my lord.

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Um Well, I always dress for the occasion. It's true. You never. So um Yeah, I just didn't.

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I didn't put it together. I forgot. It's like one of those little milestones you don't realize and it creeps up on you.

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Yeah. And then you're there. I feel like, you know, people don't celebrate enough these days.

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Um no. It's uh it's amazing. We made it to 10.

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And so we are we good? We're recording? Everything is in order. Yes. Amazing. Number 10. D ace. Dose.

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Diace do say that's all the languages I know.

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Yeah. Um what's Swedish 10? T U. T U. You don't know how to count yet? In English it's 10, so you know.

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Yeah.

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You just say 10. 10. Yeah. Um as an intro, uh I'm gonna give you something to squeeze. Okay. Because this guy right here, he keeps touching the mic stand. That means that I in post have to remove all the squeaky noises.

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I just want to squeeze the mic stand and mess with it.

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You just want to be in control. Okay, number one. Yellow E-Jet Sport bounce ball. How does it feel?

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That's pretty good. It's got a medium squeeze. Yeah. Yeah.

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Good?

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It's good for now.

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Okay. But I would maybe you need two of these because I wouldn't. Number two.

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Standard no support.

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Ped ATP. Tennis ball. Actually a similar gauge. Yeah. Yeah. But material-wise. Pretty good.

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Soft. Pretty good soft. Okay. Yeah, it's fuzzy.

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Is that racquall? EJet sport ball. Let's see what you got. It's a blue one. Maybe it's a better color for you.

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You know what? They're all pretty similar.

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Yeah.

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I'm just gonna rotate them.

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Oh, sure. Yeah. Uh here's the uh contender, the the stone egg.

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The stone egg. This would be good to do from time to time.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, just to like have more resistance.

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Yeah. Just squeeze.

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I mean, it's impossible for you to if you give me enough time, maybe I could squeeze it.

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Okay, so the winner for now.

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I don't know. They're all winners. Every object in front of me is a to the balls.

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Yeah. So nice to the balls.

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Uh well, one's an egg.

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Stone egg. I bought it in Cuba actually.

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It's pretty cool.

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After um cave boat ride. Was an old lady selling stone eggs afterwards? You can't say no to that.

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No. You gotta buy whatever she's got, especially after a cave ride. Did you go in the water or something? Like how sure how they are made. They're not they come out of the bird like this. Exactly. Yeah, they come out of the lady like this.

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Yeah. I saw a clip of a guy kicking a rock until it um turned round. Have you seen this shit?

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No, but I've heard this? Have you seen this? Have you heard about it?

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That's a Jay Leno impression. That is Jay Leno. Have you heard it?

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Have you heard? That is.

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It's his intro. His monologue. He's like. Have you heard of this? Have you heard it? Yeah.

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Yeah, no, so he finds like a somewhat of a round rock. And then he just brings it with him for 200 days. It took him. And he takes it down the road and it rolls kind of until it turns into a perfect ball.

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And what does that tell you?

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People have time. Should tell us something. But it's all tells me about discipline. He's like a modern kind of you know uh ninja almost.

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Yeah, or he's just got a lot of time.

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I mean, maybe he has like a maybe maybe he's a full-time employee and it just takes it like to work every day. Maybe he's very disciplined, he walks a lot, like he's in very he's in good shape. He's also very smart. I don't know. That might be a lesson in consistency and perfection. But it's cool that he could turn something into a ball.

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Yeah. I mean, there isn't a there's a documentary on a guy who ate a shoe.

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It his shoe.

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Yeah. In one year.

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Well, that's pretty cool.

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Day by day. You you remember this guy? I think we heard that. Ladies and gentlemen, Jay Leno. The guy friend of the show. The guy ate an airplane, okay?

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I don't even remember. I just remember. No, I've heard that.

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I don't know if it's a story, but there's like a Warren Hertzog documentary where a guy just eats a shoe.

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Yeah.

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And it's the same thing. It's just like if you just chip away.

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But what about the airplane guy?

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Uh he chipped away it. I I can't imagine the airplane was like a large airplane.

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It was a big fucking airplane. He ate it. It was in his Guinness World Book of Book of World Records.

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I don't know. I mean, it sounds like adventure. I can't do anything because I'm holding so many fucking balls.

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When you do the research, you have you're allowed to put the ball down. Well, it's very demonstrative.

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Oh, yeah, there it goes.

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Guy eats plane.

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Yeah. Let's see. I mean, sorry for like um you know, moving away from your shoe story, but the airplane is bigger than more impressive.

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Uh I think maybe the shoe thing was also like a statement in like kind of understatements, less glamorous records.

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It's like more of a like a lesson in hunger than it feels like.

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The guy eats an airplane. Yeah, it feels very gulag. Yeah, it's like what happened to the guy I ate an airplane. Michael Lotito was a French man known for his ability to consume and digest non-edible objects. He ate 18 bicycles, 15 shopping carts, seven TV sets, six chandeliers. He even consumed an entire Cessna 150 plane between 78 and 80, and he also ate a coffin. He died of natural causes in 2007.

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Why he ate an airplane in two years? He ate the whole airplane? Yeah. Well, that's so impressive that some guy ate a shoe in one year and this guy eats an airplane.

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Yeah, well, I mean, I think it was like a Warner Herzog uh plan.

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He should have made a documentary about the airplane.

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There's gotta be like a reason.

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Why guy eat an airplane?

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Fuck. How much melody eat? Did he actually what's the most a human has ever eaten? How about we'll just go there? Sure. Ah, that's just some bullshit. Um I would like to know. So he's just a spectacle.

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I remember his face. He looked like a fucking beast. He looked like Joss. Yeah. Ah, that's not what he looked like. He's like my brother. But he sort of looked like a James Bond. But as a younger, he looked like Joss. Like the guy, the big guy in James Bond.

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I mean, the French do love their food. Some would say they have advanced culinary arts, and you know, maybe that includes planes and coffins on a dish.

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Did you eat something that you were not supposed to eat? Uh as a kid? I mean, in general, like during your entire life.

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No. I don't think I ever was like uh I wonder if I can eat swallow it guy. Or like I knew a girl who swallowed a penny, and that like probably in like first grade, and it like fucked me up forever. Did you die?

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No.

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She went on to become a famous actress for like three years. What happened to the penny? Came out of her butthole, like eventually. We were like in first grade. She's like, I ate a penny, and I was like, No, you're gonna die. And I like kind of panicked. She's like, No, I'm gonna become a famous actress. Actually, no, I just I'm rich. Yeah.

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She planted the seed of money.

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It was the blonde girl from uh American Beauty.

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Oh, the tiny one?

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Yeah, the little little babe. We were in like first grade, second grade. It was like, yeah, kindergarten, first grade. She was in American Pie and stuff as well. I don't think so. Yes. Because I was really paying attention when I realized she got famous. And she might have been because there's like 30 kids in that movie. Pretty sure. But American Pie, and she did like a couple, but she's hasn't acting, I haven't seen her in like two decades. Like acting. I mean, I haven't seen her since we were in first grade. Really?

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You haven't seen her since everyone stood around the toilet booth. Yeah. Waiting for the sound.

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Yeah. Um, but I never, yeah, that was I that is one thing that I've never been like a swallow object guy.

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Well, thank you to her then for like because you got you kind of got the look. Like how we just eat shit. Yeah. You're like a big guy, and like I mean, sometimes I think that big guys kind of confuse themselves for being more machine than man. Do you understand what I mean?

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You think we got like fucking Bronosaurus brains where we're like little brains and big bodies. Yeah. I don't know. I think big guys like to eat a lot of food, and maybe that's why they get that rep.

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Yeah, but also like I'm just a guy, I'm just a like a big thing that eats things.

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I haven't quite I don't know. That's like little, that's like how a little person would talk.

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Just speculating. That's like something would say. Slightly under mid-height. Yeah. What is it called? Average height? Slightly under a guy's average height. Not a short person.

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Oh, yeah, it's something a shorter person might say. Yeah. Taking a dig at the big boys, the big guys. Okay, big guy. Yeah.

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He caught me. Um but um I drank um when I was a kid, I uh drank the stuff you clean uh rifles with. Did I tell you this story?

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I've never heard this story. This sounds like bad news.

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Yeah, it was terrible. I almost died. And you're pointing at me. Well, I I was I was being polite. How old are you? I was like four or five, I think. Oh and um the thing is, my dad was a hunter. Yeah, I remember you told me about him. Yeah, you clean this, uh it's it's like oil stuff. You clean uh, but it's like turpentine. Yeah. Kind of you clean the pipes with it. Yeah, yeah. It goes in there, you do a little like uh thingy. Yeah. Um and it was in uh I think he put it in a bottle that looked like a lemonade bottle. Uh kind of like a stupid move as a parent. No offense. Uh no offense, dad. But um yeah, I was I was thirsty. I was craving something sweet.

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That's fucked.

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And uh yeah, I chugged it.

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That's you I would just tear your insides up. You had to go to the hospital pretty fast.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. As soon as they understood, they drove me to the hospital and made me drink like um carbon.

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Yeah, charcoal.

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Yeah, charcoal, yeah. That's one of my first memories, actually. That's pretty like being held down by two doctors, and they're like shoving this like black kind of goo into my mouth, holding me down. And um yeah, it's pretty traumatic. Yeah, but I lived, and I never drank poison again because they put like a little skull sticker on the bottle, so I understood.

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Like that was a big thing when we were little kids. They had like poison stickers on everything, yeah. Poison control centers, and I remember reading an interview with DMX, and he said he was so hungry when he was a kid, they just didn't have any food, and his mom had perfume, and he thought there might be food in it because it smelled like fruit, and he just drank the whole perfume thing, and then was the same thing. Had to go to the hospital. And then it started like that's how he got that bark. You got that bark in it.

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Yeah, but uh yeah, little kids just see shit, and they're like, I don't know, seems good to me.

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But not you, Mr. Perfect.

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Yeah, no, I just wouldn't eat a penny. I think it's the objects, objects that you're like, you can't chew it, it wouldn't go, it shouldn't go in. Yeah, yeah.

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Maybe I didn't eat, I didn't eat something like that. Because that makes sense.

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You're so of a drinker, yeah. You see like a jar that could have food in it, basically, or like a juice or something. Um but yeah, no, I didn't do that shit. Thank God.

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Well, good for you. Yep, another victory. Yeah. Meanwhile, some guy's like planning how he's gonna eat in a whole airplane. That's fucking insane. Like, first I'll do the carpet. Yeah, I don't. And then I'll go for the rubber thingy.

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There's gotta be a thing where he's like cutting the pieces and like shaping them so they don't slice his insides. Because no matter what, a piece of metal is not great, or a piece of glass, or yeah, yeah. There's gotta be a technique.

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There definitely he needs like an assistant that know like an engineer that knows all the parts. Yeah.

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He needs a chef to prepare the pieces.

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I don't understand.

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Or maybe he like he's he were allowed to go to the factory. Like, here's all the pieces. Yeah. Like it's not like he goes to like the airfield and starts eating from the plane.

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Yeah.

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Well, no. He needs to go to like where all the parts are assembled, basically.

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This motherfucker, check it out. 45 door hinges, 18 bicycles, 15 shopping carts, seven TVs, six chandeliers, two beds, one pair of skis, one computer, copy of the textbook Gravitation by Misner and Thorne and Wheeler. I bet you that's some weird signal. One Cessna light aircraft, one waterbed, 500 meters of steel chain, one coffin with handles, and then he ate his Guinness World Record award plaque. And then he re and then assorted razors and bolts.

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That's so gangster though to eat his price. Yeah. I mean, it's like I don't give a fuck about this price. I'm gonna eat it.

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I mean, that is an insane situation. What a f Lotito, Michael Dominic Lotito from Grenobla, France. That's so cool.

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What a fucking freak. We need more heroes like that.

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That was his occupation. Eating stuff? Entertainer.

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Yeah.

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That was his entertainment. Crazy. If he was alive, you think he would sponsor the show? Maybe he could eat like the table or something.

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I'll feed him. He can eat the stone egg. Give him you. If he eats you. No, he doesn't eat uh cannibal.

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It's an object. He's into like, but um he probably had like a kink for statues and stuff, don't you think? Like human resemble.

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There's definitely a thrill and like some sort of conquest of objects, of material.

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Like a mannequin or something. He didn't even, he was eating razor blades and materials.

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That's the that's his like psycho. He's just like can't like that's all that's his thing. You can't have him around kids or something. Like, there's he's not normal.

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Oh don't go near him.

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He'll eat you.

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He'll eat your watch. Yeah, keep hide your shit. Yeah. It's like Debo's coming.

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Yeah.

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I don't know. He started at 16. And then he was he was sort of like a circus performer.

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Maybe it started with a penny.

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Check it. He had an eating disorder known as Pika, a psychological disorder characterized by an appetite for substances that are largely non-nutritive. Doctors determined that Latito also had thick lining in his stomach and intestines, which allowed him to consume without injury. He also had digestive juices that were unusually powerful, meaning that he could digest unusual materials. Soft foods such as bananas gave him heartburn, specifically when he had metal in his stomach. I mean, this just goes on.

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Wow, he's like a Batman villain almost.

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He would drink mineral oil and large quantities of water. So he would flood his system and shove the fucking logs down the stream, kind of. I wonder what his He would flood out a system. I mean, I'm sure.

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Oh, it's per it's snowing. Perfect.

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Out there?

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Yeah.

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Yeah. That's what it is. This is the country we live in. It was snow. It hailed the last two days. So yeah, he floods his system of stuff. And he started shoving things in and they're kind of ping-pong down. I've unraveled the whole thing. Just by reading two paragraphs.

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Yeah. You know everything about this now. But it's cool that there's like there are there are all these like psychological um disorders.

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Yeah.

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Like stuff like that. Into eating things you're not supposed to eat. He's a rebel.

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Yeah. I mean, he looks powerful. He does look freaking powerful at that. That photo in front of the Cessna with the fork and knife.

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It's a good press photo. We need press photos like that. Mantelpiece. We need like a photo of us standing with two microphones in front of like I don't know, like uh the biggest explosion ever to take this.

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Or like um if we could get like like Hiroshima behind us or something. Something provocative.

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Like like the like the deaf mute uh world meeting. Yes, we could be interviewing.

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Yeah. We could be interviewing.

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Well no, we're just talking in front of all the people that cannot cannot hear it. You know what I mean?

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Like it's something or we could be like pretending to be blind in front of them and have like glasses and a walking stick.

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I mean that's that's kind of a hate crime, I think.

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Not on Halloween. This is true.

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This is our own check. You gotta do it on Halloween.

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It's alright. Anything goes.

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Yeah, you can do like KKK outfit on Halloween. You could do anything on Halloween. You just gotta own it.

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You gotta have the you gotta deal with the consequences.

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It's like all the white girls from my hometown dressed up as rappers on Halloween.

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Dude, they love a thug face.

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Somebody that just showed up with like brown shit in their face. Like they did blackface, they did blackface.

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No way. They did that one. Oh, that's amazing.

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Good for that.

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Only on Halloween. That's when you can like be the worst version of yourself.

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It's a costume. Usually it's like I remember the thug parties. Chicks loved the thug, but they play the Tupac and they got like a football jersey. Yeah. Or they're but like lately it's just like we're slots. Yay! Yeah, we're actually slots. I haven't been to a Halloween party in a while, though. You know what?

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Isn't it your birthday around Halloween?

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Yeah, it's it's always like I never end up worrying about a costume for whatever reason. I've done like some kid things with Axel, but like I haven't like, it's been years since I've done like a costume party.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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What's your go-to?

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In only only weeks since I've done blackface.

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Well, Jesus. But it wasn't a whole. I just wiped mine off before I put the suit on.

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He was like, Look, I'm Reverend Sharpton when I walked in. I was like, dude, we got a camera on. Oh shit. Yeah. I'm little Wayne. I was like, you fucking sweet.

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I'm Little Wayne. Little Wayne. I am the little Wayne. Um I was gonna say something. Yeah. Um back in the day, what did you go as on How to Win?

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Uh I think one time I went in my partying, like college-ish days, I did uh Frank the Tank. Who's that? From old school. It's like Will Farrell's character. He's like in a robe and he's got like a sex doll in a motorhead shirt. Um but I can't remember. I never was super into Halloween costumes. I had friends that were experts, and I would just like stand next to them. Like one lady or one couple I'm friends with, she went to school for like prosthetic horror makeup. Oh so those two just dominate every Halloween. You just like go find them and stand next to them and look. Uh they would do the coolest shit ever. Like she would be dressed as Beetlejuice and it would be perfect. Yeah. Yeah. Shit like that. Like random, cool, like movie characters. But uh, I don't know. Did you you guys didn't really have Halloween?

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Not really. It was just an excuse to get fucked up. Yeah. Kind of. I went as a like uh Just an excuse for black non-like it's just stupid. Me and my friend, we uh who kind of look similar. We went as the um the twins from The Shining once. That was pretty cool.

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That's fun.

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I like we got like blood blue dresses and like blood all over us. Yeah, you did girl face. That was popular, yeah. Knee high socks. You did girl face.

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No, no, no makeup, just like no, but you presented as a girl, yeah. Which you could probably only do on that day without insulting anybody. Yeah, but the chicks love it. I bet you they do.

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I'm so free spirited.

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Yeah, I'm also a little wayne on Tuesday.

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Yeah. Um, but I'm just kind of, you know, I know. That you're not old, but when I think of Halloween, yeah, I kind of picture you in like the 70s with like just a sheet.

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You know, I only existed in the 70s. I know this.

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I I'm I just I have the fantasy about knowing someone uh older from from the states uh who could take me back on like yeah, I remember like you know you could go back to like Halloween movie, and like, yeah, I was one of them kids.

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80s kid culture was probably pretty close to 70s kid culture, like there was no huge leap until like the 90s and 2000s, I think. So like it was pretty basic, fun gossips. Like what you saw on like ET was like what it was. Yeah, you know, it wasn't like insane, like the Saw franchise didn't exist. There'd be like Jason Masks, Freddie Kruger was I think I did have a Freddie Krueger with the glove, mask and glove and the sweater. That was that's cool, a prized possession for a kid my age. Oh, I bet those were the first like expensive because they were sick, they were like made well. So it was like if you could get that, if you could convince your parents to spend 150 bucks for fucking three days of the year and never use the thing again, kind of. Yeah, that was pretty sick. And then there was like the ghetto version, which everyone was like kind of bummed on if they had to get. But there was like running around spray painting uh or using shaving cream on like toilet paper.

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Oh, look at there's one of my birds. Oh, that's nice. It's a great tit.

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A Nordic blue tit?

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They're they're called a great tit.

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That's good. You don't get to see a great tit every day.

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That's true. But I had one of my I'm so stoked that it's hanging out there now. Yeah, maybe because you got so much. Let me let me take a uh film. So much gardening.

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Oh, it's actually like looking for me. What's that? Where's little Wayne at? I heard little Wayne is here. Where are you?

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Sorry, I'm really into birds right now. Where'd you go? Is it?

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I didn't even see it the first time. I just figured it was around the corner, I couldn't see.

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There it is. It's hanging out there now. I think because I have crumbs in my blanket that's on top of my chair. Now you just sit like the godfather. I mean, I sit there and I eat my sandwiches, and the crumbs fall down on the blanket, and now it is hanging out there because it's soft and there's food. There you go. Lovely. And I got my uh bird listening app. Oh, there it is again. Unbelievable. It's making contact. It's talking to you. It is actually. Sorry, we had to take a quick uh bird watching. Bird break.

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Um what's been going on?

SPEAKER_06

I went to Munich. Yes. An oasis in Germany, an oasis in Europe. Uh I thought the place was stunning. Very clean. Oh my god. Like flowers everywhere, it's like the sound of music. As soon as you get outside the like little city center, uh, it's fucking gorgeous. I couldn't believe it. Yeah, I remember that from Munich. Um it like, and then for an American to see like old cathedrals and old buildings, it's just like, damn, we are capable of some shit. Like we can make some stuff. Like what do you mean, Europeans? Just people. Like, we don't not everything has to look like a fucking microwave, you know. Um, like the just I got lost just staring at stuff. Like, um, I don't know, it was badass. And then um I went out there to meet a bunch of people at Gore-Tex because their headquarters is there. I guess we have to bleep that. No. I mean free endorsements, it's right. Yeah, sure. I mean, they paid for me to go, so it kind of sponsored, but but uh no, uh, but I went into the world of influencers, which was really like real influencers, like people that like it's not like ha I'm an influencer. It's like, no, that I'm an influencer, like this is what I do, and they're like um it was a pretty broad spectrum of stuff. I wasn't there as an influencer, I was there because I helped do a workshop for Gore-Tex last fall, but the other people were there as influencers, and so I was sort of immersed in just like this mind. But it was some kind of like meeting uh one involved with the brand, or yeah, they did like they did these photo workshops in like every not every major city, but like six major cities in Europe, and I sort of like instructed or led the one in Stockholm, and as sort of like a good faith thank you, they brought me along to see the headquarters and shake hands and meet people, and it was pretty interesting stuff. Um it was one of those companies that everyone I met's like, yeah, I worked here 23 years, yeah. I worked here 30 years, yeah, I worked here 12 years. They all get slices of the company, they all own the company. Uh-huh. It's privately owned. So everyone that works there gets a little extra chunk. Owner equity. It's no like worker equity. They all get like shares in the and if the company does well, they get a bonus. Yeah. So everyone loves their it was just like a rare bird. You know, you're like, damn, that's amazing. This is like what you used to hear about your grandparents used to do, you know. That's cool. Um, so that was cool, but meeting the influencers was definitely like a lesson in what's really going on out there. Uh, and some of them are super cool, and some of them I kind of had to keep separating myself from. Like, there was one girl that was like the complainer girl. Oh, who's just like, this food's stupid. I'm so sick of people. Why are they my chair? Who makes a chair like this? I mean, come on. You know, like just where you're like, oh, oh god. Where was she from? She was British. Oh um, probably a nice person, but I you could tell her shtick was like, I'm the complain girl. Uh-huh. Where you're like, they're giving us free shit. We're we're stuffing our faces. This is interesting. There's a nice presentation happening.

SPEAKER_02

You think that was because she's like used to better stuff?

SPEAKER_06

Like um, I think she was just insecure. It's like kind of basic. Like, I think she didn't know what to do if she wasn't complaining. Yeah. Um, but then there were some other people that I thought were pretty cool. And I met some interesting people. I got a little update on what's going on in different cities. Um I met one. Do tell. Well, I talked to some dudes from Berlin and they were like, dude, it's fucking game over. They were like, and then we were walking around Munich and they're like, you couldn't have this there. You couldn't have this there. There'd be like, you can't have flowers there. That would be like crack pipes and cigarette butts.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Um, he was like, I gotta, I might not stay if I don't have to. Like it just sort of like, fuck, Berlin is in a tight spot. Yeah. Um, but it was cool. Got to go into like the laboratory and like the the rain tunnels and stuff.

SPEAKER_02

Because this brand makes uh waterproof.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, they make a membrane that they sell like yardage to or whatever to every brand that wants it. They have to fit into the plant, they don't just give it away. Um, but we got to go into the labs and see how they like damage test products, like shoes that have to bend in in water 10,000 times, and then they like investigate it. They just have like a rubbing machine that just like rubs on the material slowly for like a month all day, and then there was the wind tunnel and like a rain tunnel, um, which is just like silly fun. You're like, I'll go in that, I gotta go in that thing. It's like a storm in a tube. Um it was fun, and they didn't let us they basically were like you had to meet at 7 15 and you'd get to your room at like midnight. So it was a lot of like you there was no resting really. Oh, so it was exhausting, and then the food was definitely like a food eating contest. The variant food I had not really eaten before. What's on the menu? I tried to keep up with whatever the locals were getting, so I got like the large versions, like big guy brain, sausages and stuff. Uh it was like some pork fried something with kraut and some potatoes and then more stuff and some seasonal soups and just big beers. Um, but what I noticed is like, and I wasn't like partying, but I was having, I was like, we're in fucking Germany, like let's get some big beers and eat whatever they're eating. And like the influencers like don't drink because they have to be camera ready 24 hours a day. Yeah, so there's like no, there's a lot of restraint. Like you could see some restraint happening, which is fine, you don't have to drink, but I was starting to just see like, damn, this is like a trip, and they're paying for everything, and like these guys are so dialed into being ready for content that there's like a little bit of like a handcuffing, yeah. But I guess that's the jobs, and they do receive money from people, but the uh I had never seen like high-end content get made fucking edits go up and like kind of decent. Like some I saw some cool stuff.

SPEAKER_02

Um uh like from the influencers, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

But then I met a kid who wasn't an influencer, he was like just like a like a heavy, heavier French guy, loved his food, had like French facial hair, camera, loved photography, loved food and photography. So I kind of did he eat air airplanes? He didn't his father didn't eat. No, it's not Lotito. Um but it was a good contrast to talk to a kid who who's like just fucking loved the craft and like new photography and like new the photographers and the like the legend, the masters, and um, and then you turn to like someone doing a TikTok dance on the other across, you know, in the other corner, and you're like, there's a good spread here. Yeah, but that's good. And then it's balanced a little bit. No, it was cool. It was like they put it together, so they got a little mostly influence are heavy, but they got a little something of everything, and um it was fun. And uh, I don't know, I fucking I loved uh I loved Munich and when we drove out it was like the sound of music, the Alps were in the background. Um and uh we saw a Timberland boot that they made for Shaq when they were trying to court him as like a Timberland endorser, and then he didn't he didn't go for it, but the boot's like you know, the size of the it's like a Timberland boot the size of the table. What size he is? Is he I thought it was like 20, I think he's like 21 US or 22. It it almost spans this table.

SPEAKER_05

It's like a joke boot. It's like joke boot. What is that in in euro?

SPEAKER_06

Uh 60 US 21. Because I've as a kid I used to know his shoes. What are you? 14? 13. Um US size insane. I want to say 21 as a guess, it might be 22. In EU. So in EU, he's oh they're giving me toddler sizes because it can't compute. Like, that's impossible. Oh, men's uh 55 and a half or 56. It's big, slightly smaller than I expected, but well, I was looking at that, like, could you imagine playing a sport with Shaq? And he stumbles on you.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

And you're like, cool, my fucking thigh bone just broke. You know, like he's apologizing. I mean, I would never play with Shaq. Um, but uh I had people be like, yeah, you know, like you're in Munich, it's real conservative, it's not for me. And I was walking around like this is fucking perfect, dude. It's like a movie set.

SPEAKER_02

But it is, um I was there on tour once. Yeah. It's it's the furthest southern city, right? You can't go more south.

SPEAKER_06

I think it's very south, yeah, because it leads right into the Alps, which is down south, I think.

SPEAKER_02

Uh oh wow, you can uh I can take some of that.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, yeah, no, it's fine, it's fine. I thought you were done. I'm like such a consumer.

SPEAKER_02

Um but I remember the guy who was hosting us, he was like Yeah, it is very very clean, City.

SPEAKER_06

Dude, that's the guy from the hotel. He talked he talks exactly like that. That's good, super friendly, crazy accent.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so guys, we have like an anti-homeless policy here. Perfect. And uh, this is why the streets are so clean. So they just they get rid of them, no cigarette butts, uh no trash on the street.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, it was quite clean.

SPEAKER_00

And um it's almost impossible here to be homeless. Well, that's good too.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I mean, sure, but I mean what happened to the homeless. They just kind of push them into the mountains or something.

SPEAKER_06

I don't know what they do. I I didn't see I didn't hear one car horn. There was like a the guy I was with was like, yeah, I think we've only heard like an ambulance once.

SPEAKER_02

I think I've it felt like North Korea when I was there. Because then you've been in all these places like Hamburg, Berlin, Amsterdam, Rotterdam. You know, you've been in like the the the cultural dirty cities.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I'm leaning towards North Korea, kind of as far as comfort.

SPEAKER_02

Like it was so you could see very far, I remember. Yeah, and there's a long time. So you could it's like so well presented.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I don't I just thought it was nice, and I keep people kept making like snarky remarks, and I was like, I don't know, it seems like I'm sure there's some things under the surface like longer stay anywhere, but um that was fucking cool.

SPEAKER_02

Uh did you go to the um ski lift cafe? No, it's a really cute little um cafe that's like you take these alpine ski lifts kind of.

SPEAKER_06

No shit.

SPEAKER_02

And we go in there and they play like jodel music, and you have glue wein. Okay, the hot wine.

SPEAKER_06

Ah no, we had just the the proper German thing was like a beer hall experience. Yeah. Um I had a couple day beers, smoked some cigs, ate too much food. It was just You're an influencer. I was so not, they I was like a fucking Martian compared to these people. Like I was the one that's like was off to the side. There was a couple other dudes that were pretty normal because of their probably because of their age. They were like closer to me at age.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, to me, if you fly someone out and treat them, yeah, then you're an influencer. But I didn't have to in our little gang, you're an influencer.

SPEAKER_06

But I didn't have to do stuff. I mean you are you.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

You're the guy, but I'm not they're not expecting me like they're expecting the other people to like cut and edit with like you know, phone apps and shit and be like, what up, Muddy Munich? You know, like Guten Tag, Gore-Tex.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. Diedrich, uh that's a super geil uh Gore-Tex situation.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I mean you will You can do that.

SPEAKER_06

No, but I probably will like post some photos of being there because I'm a photographer, but I I didn't I was in no position to be like feeling like I had to do anything. I already did the thing for them. Yeah I did essentially like production for them like months prior.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I'm happy for you. I'm glad that um It was nice to see more of Europe. You're getting treated. Why thank you? Anything else happened?

SPEAKER_06

Not much. Smoked a little weed, that was cool. Someone showed up with an Iron Maiden joint. Like uh I don't know, it was just in a cool Iron Maiden case with Eddie on it.

SPEAKER_02

What impossible to say no?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I was like, let's go, let's go. Now we're friends, we're buddies now.

SPEAKER_00

And you're like uh heavy metal.

SPEAKER_06

No, it was like a cool guy from Cologne. He was like another photographer guy. Oh um, but uh no, and then I went to my room and watched like weird German TV, like high. Perfect, it was super cool. Um, and then came home back to hail and like freezing rain and wind. It was also fucking gorgeous. Like the weather we lucked out. We saw the standing wave. There's a canal in Munich that I had seen on like Instagram or something where they they just I guess accidentally built a standing wave. The the way the canal under the bridge comes out, it just hits something.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that's the the one the surfer. Yeah, so the standing wave means the constant wave kind of thing.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, that's what we call in English. Like uh, like those like parks they make, it's like a standing wave. But that was sick.

SPEAKER_02

That looked insane.

SPEAKER_06

It was so cool, and the dude just like you just kind of jump into it, you can't like paddle in, obviously. Dude was ripping. Um I'm glad we still got to see somebody surfing it. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I don't know. It was just like I thought the company, I thought the the little German guys with the bellies that have been the brand forever that were like working in the labs, it was just like wholesome and nice.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, it's uh everything that is having a job. Yeah, seems pretty nice to me.

SPEAKER_06

But these are the things that we used to have in the States like 50 years ago. You're like, I got a fucking factory job, I care, I like that I have it, my family's eating. Yeah, I work here till I retire, we go on vacation, you know, like that vibe is like not anywhere anymore. Like, and so it was cool to see somebody taking care of people and taking them taking care of themselves.

SPEAKER_02

There are places out there for people.

SPEAKER_06

It's rare.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Um, but yeah, that was my trip. It was fun.

SPEAKER_02

Good for you to get out there. I liked it. Have you been a lot to like Europe before? Have you been to Berlin a bunch? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Before the before the darkness, the terrible nothing hit the city. I would go there like randomly every summer for like by coincidence for a few years in a row.

SPEAKER_02

That's something else though.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. It was already pretty rough when I went, but that was like the fun part. But I think now it's like getting pretty third world. They're just like not picking up track. Like the the cities aren't that this general infrastructure is like crumbling. The city workers are high. Yeah, no, they told me that now they're just using they have a set budget for garbage pickup, and now they're just it's so small, or they're like siphoning so much because they're privatizing it all.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

That now there's like enough trucks to pick up a third of the trash, so they're just focusing on certain neighborhoods, and certain neighborhoods are just like junkyards. Yeah. Um but I I liked Berlin. I thought the people were cool. I didn't survive like I didn't go there during like extreme woke waves, and I'm sure they they take that pretty seriously, which I would have been kind of exhausted with. Um but I think for like music and arts it's a great city. They got the fucking Ramones museum in Munich. In Berlin. No, in Berlin. Berlin. Um, which I loved that like the Germans were just it was like so diehard that they had a Ramones museum. Yeah. Lifetime member now. I got a pin that gets me in for free forever. Yeah, yeah. Well, how you just buy the ticket and they're like, here's your pin, you can always come back for free. It's like, yes, it's like a Ramones museum. Yeah, you just can't lose it. I'm not sure where it is, but I'll find it next time I go.

SPEAKER_05

It's a fan club. It's just a museum.

SPEAKER_06

It's so sick. It's got like their socks, they're like random shit, like newspaper clippings, like why is this?

SPEAKER_02

I don't know much about Vermont's.

SPEAKER_06

It's just like uh they're from uh Forest Hills, Queens, or something. Some Queens little tent neighboring Queens.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but what's what's the Berlin thing?

SPEAKER_06

I think Berlin is so much punk during that time.

SPEAKER_02

Did they hang out there?

SPEAKER_06

Did they probably border like I mean like Iggy Pop was living there?

SPEAKER_02

Why can they claim uh Ramones? That's what I mean. Because they're fans. Ah, okay.

SPEAKER_06

So it's not like uh No, the Ramones weren't like we're German, they were just like some fucking weird-looking dudes from Queens.

SPEAKER_02

I know, I know how.

SPEAKER_06

Um no, no, it's just fan like fan made. It's just like some collector put I don't know the.

SPEAKER_02

Sometimes it's like uh it's a weird Picasso Museum in like uh Spanish town. Is it because he resided there for a year when he did a painting and then they kind of claim the you know the right to have a Picasso Museum?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I think Berlin was just such a punk scene punk punk scene that they were probably like every time they played, it was like Elvis coming. I mean, they had like Iggy was living there. I'm sure it was like popping for a while. Um I bet. But uh yeah, that was my trip. That's nice. Yeah, it was cool. It was cool to get out and not carry camera bags or like clothes for a family and just be sweating in the airport. I don't think I've gone on a fun trip, like just a trip in a long time. Did you get inspired? I did here and there. I liked seeing what some of the uh actual photographers are doing. I liked seeing some of the stuff in Gore-Tex and I got psyched on the architecture, like blown away. I like now I want to go like study this shit.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Um just all the stuff when you see a building, it's got like a million details and they're all there for a reason. That's pretty cool. And there was no power tools. You know? Yeah. There's like we got a hundred years to get her done. Whatever it is, you know. Like my son will take my place on the spire and like building it, you know.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's dedication.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, it's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02

What about me then? What about you, Ben? What about me?

SPEAKER_06

What have you been up to? It's been a like oh actually extended time since episode nine. Two weeks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Long two weeks. Yeah. What has been going down? Um Well, I had surgery yesterday.

SPEAKER_06

Yes. Um We're all pulling for your buddy.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And it feels it's a bit uh it's so silly because I went to the doctor to look at my foot. And um she looked at my foot and then she was like, Yeah, let's take a look at your back as well. She's a skin doctor. And um she's like there some kind of dermatology. Dermatology, yeah, that's the correct word. And she's like, um yeah, we need to have surgery. We need to do surgery for you. I was like, Well, surgery, what do you mean? Like that's nothing you you can do, right? You know it's so funny because I think when you become like a specialist within medicine, yeah, you know, it felt like she really needed to say surgery a lot.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, because she she felt like you were just assuming she was like nothing.

SPEAKER_02

Oh no, she's just like a girl with the you know, did you ask to speak to the man in charge? No, but it felt like she wanted to make a point of she was gonna make she we're gonna need to have to do surgery on it.

SPEAKER_06

Was this like an over she was overcompensating and like opened your back?

SPEAKER_02

No, I don't know, like, but it I never thought about like removing you know birthmarks as uh surgery.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, okay. I see where you're gonna be.

SPEAKER_02

I thought it was just like a little cigar clipper, she freezes it off or whatever, but she's like, Yeah, we're gonna schedule surgery for you. And I was like, Okay, sure. You do that. I come back. This is a week before, uh like a week ago. I came back yesterday and she's like, Yeah, go ahead, go away, let's let's have surgery. And I was like, sure, whatever surgery. Yeah, and and um I guess she actually did surgery on me. I guess if they open your body, it's I mean, yeah, I I did not expect this procedure for like birthmarks, but yeah, she opened me up basically.

SPEAKER_05

Um you think it was needed? I'm not sure. One of those situations where you're like, I don't know if I need just because it's all free doesn't mean I need it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but it's just like she was trying to make a point of it.

SPEAKER_06

Because a birthmark like her having the skill to do something. How many birthmarks have become like do they grow and take your entire body over? Yeah, it's uh or was it one of those things where like we need to watch it because it might be cancers in the future?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, for sure. I mean, she froze my face, that's why I'm a little bit fucked up here. Oh she she had cell changes.

SPEAKER_06

She went to a fucking witch doctor.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, she froze my face with uh like some kind of big freezing machine, and then yeah, she opened my back in two places.

SPEAKER_06

Because when I came over here, Pear, it was sounded like he was just like getting, it was like a haunted house tape. So he was like getting, you know, picking things up. He's like, I can't really do anything, and then I just look over, he's like bending.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I'm I'm not allowed to work out. I'm not allowed to sweat. This bitch sucks. I'm not allowed to shower. Um, I'm not allowed to have a sauna, take a bath, nothing like that. Just so she could get her little surgery. Two two weeks. She gave me fuck that dude. In two weeks, we're taking the stitches out.

SPEAKER_06

We'll take them out on the next episode. Seven days. Seven days. We'll get them out fast. I'll take it.

SPEAKER_05

But what happened to your stitches? No, Chris, he we needed something to talk about. Yeah. We needed like we got a camera.

SPEAKER_02

Chris fixed me. He's also a doctor. Yep. So I had that, and I've been kind of romanticizing being having scars and like open wounds on my body because I've been watching Spartacus. The series. Oh, the series. I mean, it's just it's terrible. But it's like it's giving me something at the moment. You know, like I never have I haven't been into the Romans really.

SPEAKER_06

Romans are great.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but it's just I uh I never cared for Romans because I was so into Greek thingies when I was a kid. Uh I was more like, uh, I'll I'll that's that's enough for me. But now I'm like, okay, Roman Empire are pretty interesting. Very interesting. But uh so I've been watching that show, and when I went to bed last night with my open wounds and my stitches and my bandages, I was like, I'm a fucking gladiator, you know? That's great. I'm hurt feeling, yeah, and it hurts to lay down.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, from your battles.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I'm such a man now because I've been to battle kind of.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, this chick convinced you to do surgery.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And uh, you know, it felt good.

SPEAKER_06

That's good.

SPEAKER_02

I almost wanted like the wounds to open up a little bit, just jiggle. I don't care. Yeah, I'm a I'ma go out to the arena.

SPEAKER_06

We'll take them out, rub a little dirt in those things.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but um, so that's kind of you know, it felt like a theme.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, so you can't really wounds, and then yeah. You can like go places and do stuff.

SPEAKER_02

I'm allowed to walk, and uh I went grocery shopping after my surgery yesterday, and I was like, fuck that doctor. I'm gonna carry these bags all the way home. I was uh like around your Did you start bleeding? Maybe. I mean I did something to the banges because I know they're a bit loose.

SPEAKER_06

The back's tough because everything's attached to it.

SPEAKER_02

I I can't, you know, I can't reach them at all. So um but I pushed it a little bit too far and then halfway I was just like, I can't do this.

SPEAKER_06

Like, um Did you just throw your groceries in the ocean and keep walking?

SPEAKER_02

I took one of these electric scooters in my listed.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Yeah, that was right. Yeah, that's a declaration right there.

SPEAKER_05

So that happened. Um and no painkillers. No, no. Is this lady licensed? I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_02

They were playing like Craig David in the surgery room.

SPEAKER_06

I don't know who that is.

SPEAKER_02

Um RB singer from England.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

And I was just like, what's going on? Yeah. Are we having surgery or is this like uh sexy? Is this like Love is Blind?

SPEAKER_06

Did they put you under?

SPEAKER_02

No, no, I mean she did something.

SPEAKER_06

Like numbed you.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. But um weird, weird vibes. I'm going uh back in two weeks for another surgery. Stitching removing. I mean, I'm just like a walking corpse this month.

SPEAKER_06

Dude, fuck. I guess get it out of the way before summer starts.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So I can bathe and swim and and tan tan all summer.

SPEAKER_03

I'm gonna be like that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that happened. Pretty cool. Oh man. But I like I like stuff like that. I'm I'm into um changing my body, modification. And I'm also into needles and stuff. I I guess this is a bit weird. It's not a kink, but it's like I um I really like to see needles going into my veins and stuff.

SPEAKER_06

That would be a kink.

SPEAKER_02

You think so?

SPEAKER_06

It's not the average person does it.

SPEAKER_02

It's not arousing, it's not mainstream. I'm just interested in seeing like the physics, like the engineering. Like, oh, it's actually going into me now. Yeah. Oh, and there comes the blood, you know? Yeah, like it's so you're kind of psyched on this needless surgery.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Nice. I'm stoked. You should do your own surgery then. I did. Nice. Yeah. A couple of times. Yeah? Yeah. Go poking around in there. Where in where? Inside your body. Okay, in there.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Inside of it. Uh yeah, sure. What did you do?

SPEAKER_03

I mean, this is gross.

SPEAKER_02

You go stuff in your butthole? No, no, I did not have two surgery in my ass. Okay. No. No, but I removed some birthmarks and stuff with like knee, like uh Really? Uh I one thing I I do is I cut on my eyelids with a scissor. Sometimes you grow extra skin there on the eyelids.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, I've seen that, I think. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And my friend's dad, he is a doctor. And we were when we were kids, he's just like, My friend is like, yeah, I got extra skin on my eyelids now, dad. And he's like, Okay, I'll grab the scissors.

unknown

Nice.

SPEAKER_02

And they just did it, and I was just like, oh, you can do that.

SPEAKER_06

I mean, I you could do a lot of things.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but I mean it's pretty, it is intense. I would just use a scissor in your eyes, kind of, but I'm into it. I do that.

SPEAKER_06

I would be more of like uh like if it was like on a big body of skin, like not the eye seems a little like you get infected, you kind of yeah, but it's it's just it's nothing.

SPEAKER_02

It's it's just skin. It's like it's a skin tag. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh what else did I do? I did like dental floss uh thread on uh birthmarks and stuff like that. Like choke it out? Yeah, yeah, I've seen that happen. That's modern now. Yeah, yeah, it's more mainstream.

SPEAKER_06

That's not like fringe medicine.

SPEAKER_02

No, it's not like you know, I'm cleaning with alcohol and like open myself up and stuff. I mean, that's about it. But I mean I guess it is surgery because if this I think if they open your body if this doctor is doing surgery on me now, I also did surgery on myself.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Self-surgeon.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, field medic.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

It's like very like a Jason Bourne kind of thing.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. And it feels good.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Speaking of Jason Bourne. Oh. There is a place. Oh yeah. On Bondagaton.

SPEAKER_02

What number? 58. And you know what? We don't have to actually have to tell anything. We're just gonna like play a field report.

SPEAKER_04

Oh yeah. Okay, oh, because we did we were there.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Nice.

SPEAKER_02

So maybe I'll just do a little uh recording. Good. And I'll mute us, and we can just do a little. That's great. Okay, good.

SPEAKER_06

I didn't want to get too far and then like we didn't do it.

SPEAKER_05

No.

SPEAKER_06

Um We're chowing our restaurant.

SPEAKER_01

Right to restaurant. You want to describe the sensations? I'm having some sort of beef uh soup, beef bra. Piping hot and good.

SPEAKER_02

Me, I'm having a classic cowboy.

SPEAKER_06

And one of these uh chrysanthemum teeth.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

It's lovely.

SPEAKER_02

It is lovely, and uh such a good time we're sitting here outside as well. And uh let's come on down this place. Come on down here. Okay, thank you. Ciao nah. Restaurant. Chow na restaurant.

SPEAKER_06

Um, I did see something that was kind of freaked me out two days ago. And I don't know what exactly I saw, but I was at this playground uh with my son, and I saw, and it's like a playground for six-year-olds or whatever, and younger. It's like for little kids, it's not like a jungle gym. And these two kind of like 11, 12-year-old-looking kids come cruising through pretty high speed, and they just got that look like they're up to something. Um, and they walk past this lady who's with her child, and she's you know, focused on the kid, and they wave their phone past her waistline. And it's it wasn't in a way like they were trying to take like a butt shot or something. As soon as they waved it past her waistline, I heard their phone go like or something, you know, like some noise digital confirmation. And uh, and I kind of was like, What the fuck was that? Like I'm staring at it, trying to piece it together. And then as soon as that noise happened, the the looks on their faces were like, Oh my god, we did it! Like, and they giggled and they started like hot stepping fast to the fence, and then I'm just like, Oh my god, what and I start staring because they look at me and I start staring at them like like giving them a look, like as I'm processing what what might have just happened, and then they hop the fence and they just run down the street. You know what it is? I went over to the lady and was like, Hey, did you see those kids? I don't know what that was, but they did something, and you need to check your bank accounts and keep an eye on whatever, like be get ready because this something happened, and they were very like something weird happened. I don't know what it was, and she was like on the phone with her bank.

SPEAKER_01

And you know what it is though? Ghost tapping? It's it's Apple Pay prank. Okay, it's a TikTok thing.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, I figured it, but I was just like, I've seen people also use credit card scanners on wallets, yeah, and just like swipe.

SPEAKER_02

No, I mean it is um they have the sound, okay. So it plays the pling. That's what it was, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then someone else is filming it, and they can't, it's like a reaction.

SPEAKER_05

But you get can they get money? No, no, it's just a sound.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, okay. And they I thousand dollars. I mean, on the internet people have these like um meta glasses on and they film it with their face kind of these guys didn't have glasses, but they were definitely like thrilled that they had just done something. Yeah, but like uh that's kind of part of the act, these little shits. Um and it's a play on people thinking that you can actually steal money from them with another phone.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, okay. Because I've seen the the card machines get used like on tourist traps where they just walk up to someone's wallet and just like hold it right there and charge them 90 bucks or whatever. Yeah. Um, but I thought I was like, I don't know, I was just like, fuck, now we gotta deal with this shit. Like now this can happen. Yeah. Um, but she didn't, she called her bank and then kind of wandered away. She didn't say like anything happened, but I was just like, Yeah, oh progress, uh yay. So that's a TikTok thing.

SPEAKER_02

It's uh it's comedy.

SPEAKER_06

Wouldn't that get your ass kicked?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it happens all the time.

SPEAKER_06

Like if someone did that to me, I would like because it took me a second, they were 30 feet away, but I could still hear the fucking phone. And by the time I figured out what it was, they were running. Yeah, but like that would get your ass kicked. It's like a modern prank haul. But that's something that would result in something not very fun half the time or more.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but for them, it's like they're beyond um the understanding of elderly. You know what I mean? Elderly in terms of just anybody older than them, or just anybody who is old enough not to understand what they're doing. It's like it's the same thing when I was a kid. We just prank called like olders, older people.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, but would you but you wouldn't make them think you've just stolen their money or identity.

SPEAKER_02

No, I guess, but it's still provoking. Well, we I mean, I used to do soundboard. Everyone used to do the prank quartz negative.

SPEAKER_06

For sure. But I don't think it's just it's a serious thing. You're not like, oh, this this dude stole from me right now. Because then it's like, you know, you go somewhere else besides, oh, hang the phone up, who cares?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

I feel like that would be a bit of a problem where you do it to the wrong person, they just lose their mind and like start beating you. Yeah. Which I think would teach less, it would be educational.

SPEAKER_02

But it's still gonna make you viral. Um, I think I would that's a risk that kids take these days. Yeah. Because they know that oh, well, if I if he hits me, the high the whole high school is still gonna see it. Yeah, and I'm gonna be like the cool guy. It's like jackass, I guess, in a way. Yeah, you kind of put yourself out there in a dangerous situation.

SPEAKER_06

Potatoes are just a joke, and you're getting like you smacked.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Um, but that's that's like common pranks these days.

SPEAKER_06

I felt like it's pretty pathetic.

SPEAKER_02

Have you seen these AI pranks they do? I sent you one.

SPEAKER_06

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, film like a guy talking to a guy in uh store, and then it's like AI can make them kiss.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, that one was like, I'm just like, dude, oh fuck.

SPEAKER_02

This is like it's this is pathetic. Comedy.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, but it was like I get it, but you're like praying, it's sort of like the guy was in over his head and trying to figure out what was happening, and you're just like no clue, he's like 80 years old. Um that's when I feel like that dude should get smacked too. Uh, because you're like you're praying for your own. It's I don't know. I feel like it's like a fair fight thing. You know, like, oh, you you tricked an elderly guy with AI, like what a fucking wizard you are. Yeah, you know, like it's it's like pick on someone who can like like intellectually compete with yeah, but there's no rules anymore.

SPEAKER_02

It's not like they don't care, it's still funny for to them, and it's like it's like kicking a homeless person and feeling like wow, that was it's like bum fights, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

And I think uh that type of behavior comes back to haunt you either singularly or as like a generation. Definitely. Um, because whatever gets whatever you're doing will come back and somebody will do it to you or something, I think, in some form. But yeah, there's like viral prank shit. Uh maybe we do need World War III. We need a fucking draft. Because like this shit is so retarded. Like, there's like no consequences, everything is just fame-driven, and um it's gonna fade out, I'm pretty sure. I hope it does.

SPEAKER_02

Just like uh it's gonna take some time. It's uh I don't know, man. Yeah, but we're on the right path. We have our own show. We're very disciplined and dedicated. Yeah. And we do stuff almost every week, and that's you know, we're good. We're we're maybe we should be vigilantes instead, though.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, clean the streets up, fight the pranks.

SPEAKER_02

What kind of outfit are you wearing?

SPEAKER_06

Uh shit. Some sort of like subtle military, tactical, school shooter, no. So I don't want people to be scared. I don't want I don't want the wrong people to be scared. Subtle military.

SPEAKER_05

Just like something where it's like this guy kind of dresses very practical. Champion hoodie and like the camo face.

SPEAKER_06

I wouldn't do I wouldn't do camo makeup, but I would just sort of dress in a way that you're like, you know, I'm not gonna be pushed over. Like sleeveless? Something like that. Yeah, a little aggressive.

SPEAKER_02

Maybe maybe change do something with the facial just a like a green sleeve, like a torn-off t-shirt that says Chris kind of something, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Something aggressive. Oh, it's Chris.

SPEAKER_05

No, oh no, it's Cambo Chris. I was just doing a prank. Oh, you just broke my arm. It's a fucking prank. How's this prank?

SPEAKER_06

No, I just don't like that shit. It's like bully behavior. Because there's like pranking, and then there's like picking on people who are like out of their depths, you know, and then that's when you're just bullying somebody. It's not uh it's not a fair fight.

SPEAKER_02

But isn't this to become older to care? Uh because when you were big fat Chris. I was like 33. Yeah, but you wouldn't react to this. Yeah, I would. I guarantee you. You would not become a vigilante if you saw it.

SPEAKER_06

I mean, I'm not become a vigilante, but I would like stop something stupid like that, or or like make sure the person knew if I saw it. Yeah. I think that's always been me. Okay. Um because I bridge a time when like this wasn't this, none of this existed. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like this wasn't normal to me. Yeah, but they don't know that. That's what I mean.

SPEAKER_02

Like, that's that's not that's why like I would have acted, I would have reacted the same way as you would have you wouldn't you would have need to set like an example. You get your ass kicked. Let's like circle back here in like two minutes and we do it this way and see what you guys feel.

SPEAKER_06

I come from a time with less compassion and tolerance, yeah. So like shit wouldn't fly, you just get smacked, yeah. And now it's like the you know, it's like everybody's having feelings and you can't fucking address any there's no accountability for anything, yeah. So this shit wouldn't fly in like the 80s and 90s.

SPEAKER_02

No, but the interesting thing is that when people actually like act on these kind of pranks, like the the backlash if they like manage to grab one of these kids and like hold their arm like really tight, yeah, they're gonna be like, You're hurting me. Oh my god, I can't believe you hurt me. Like, and they're gonna press charges almost. And the parents are gonna be like I would ride out like oh my god, you're hurting my kid, and it's like, yeah, but he kind of stole from me, at least I thought he did. Yeah, so what am I supposed to do? Just like assume everything is a joke these days?

SPEAKER_06

No, it's it's like it's got there's no solution to it. There is, and it's for people to stop being pussies about everything. Yeah, because you if you if you let this shit go, it's everything unravels.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but would what would happen to you? Let's say they did it to you and you like punched a child, you would be in jail now.

SPEAKER_06

Probably. I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't like punch a child, but I would like I would probably shake him very hard and like hold him uncomfortably until like I could get up a. Yeah. I'm sorry, dude. You stole from me. I don't know what you think is gonna happen when you steal from somebody that they're gonna be like, it's cool, I'm sorry to you. Like you would get held down until a cop came. And then then we could clean the mess up if it was a prank, but you're still getting a knee on your back or your chest, you know. Oh jeez. Fuck it. Like, no, this pisses me. I mean, not to go to Chris, but not to go with the like George Floyd shit, but like still in most places, if you steal something, the shop owner will try and hold you down, you know? Yeah. And no one, and that's the that's kind of like how society stays.

SPEAKER_02

My uncle broke someone's arm in a shop. He's an eco guy. Oh, some thief. He broke his arm. There you go. Just like that. And they like nobody nothing happened. Well, it was he was like, I mean, the chief the chief, the chief, the thief got uh I mean he got punished. Yeah. And he's got his arm broke.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, okay. Um, there you go.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. But that was 15 years ago.

SPEAKER_06

Now you think they'd just sue him. Your uncle would be like doing time right now.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, it would definitely be on film and they would like question everything. Like, what did he really need to break the arm, you know? Yeah. Um the meta glasses would have like proved him guilty of assault.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, but also like the thing that kills me about that is like if you're in like a high stress like this moment, you can analyze, you can make anyone look like they've planned to, you know, it's like people are thinking on their feet with in like adrenaline, and they're not like trained in combat. They're just like, ah, I gotta make it stop. Yeah, and then you to get to put people in jail for that shit's garbage. Um but uh yeah, I wouldn't like punch a kid, but I would definitely make a fucking problem easily. Yeah, I don't want a kid to get hurt, but that behavior is just trash. Um, and that I feel like is a good I let some out right there. Yeah, I let some out. I was a little frustrated. You know, the worst is like when you see something and then you start realizing like, yo, I should have got off the chair and like ran across the park, slide tackled. I let him go.

SPEAKER_02

Like this tackle when you kind of broke the legs up.

SPEAKER_06

It's like but because like I'm so angry about it, but I'm like, why didn't you do anything? It's because I was like staring at it like it was a TV show almost. Like, is this fucking happening? And then they ran. So I'm not the hero I want to be.

SPEAKER_02

No, but uh we need to get you the outfit.

SPEAKER_06

I also was just catching up to modern society, I guess. Like I couldn't figure out what the fuck was going on.

SPEAKER_02

Um you know I interviewed uh Vigilante once.

SPEAKER_06

I do know this.

SPEAKER_05

I would love to hear about this guy, and you photographed him.

SPEAKER_02

I it was um in my early 20s. Yes, the coolest thing in the world was Vise magazine, uh at least here. No, they were big everywhere, they were cool everywhere. In Stockholm and Copenhagen, they had offices, and it was like if you're there, you can basically do whatever you want. Yeah. So me and my friend, we um we just pretended like, oh, maybe we're journalists. Yeah, you know, we tried everything. We were kind of unemployed, we had super cheap brands in Malmo. And we were just like, We're we're journalists now this month, and we're gonna do our best to get like a vice article. So he started scanning the news for like interesting local things, yeah. And it turns out there is like a vigilante roaming the streets of Malmo at night, and somebody some sometimes people see him walking around like in a like full suit. That's great, like in the middle of the night. That's great, just patrolling. And somehow we got a hold of his email, kind of but I'm sure you'll put in pictures, right? Yeah, I will definitely put in pictures. And we emailed him and was like, hey, we're from Vice magazine.

SPEAKER_06

Had you confirmed this with Vice?

SPEAKER_02

No, no, no. Oh, you're just fake anything. We're just like, it's guerrilla tactics. I get it. Ambition. Yeah. Well, hey, we're from Vice, this is our platform, and he's just like, What? He answered like a month later. He's just like, hello, I'll do the interview with you guys.

unknown

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_06

He was out on a mission. That's why it took away.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I mean he was fighting crime hard. And um we met him in a park, and he's like, Yeah, you can you can meet me when I change, kind of. When I put on my outfit. Cool. And uh as we met him, he's like, Don't look at my face, don't look at my face.

SPEAKER_01

Like, this is sick.

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna put him on, like, I'm gonna stand over there. He had like a bag, like a black bag. Then he then left in the bushes with his normal clothes. Then he put on the outfit, kind of.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And I mean, you'll see it in the pictures, but he had kind of like a white, you know, ski mask. Yeah. And then like leather, jacket, tactical vest, like lots of gadgets.

SPEAKER_06

That sounds cool.

SPEAKER_02

Um, army boots, you know, motorcycle gloves.

SPEAKER_06

Still kind of practical.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Not just fantasy.

SPEAKER_02

No, no, no. And you know, we just walked with him for like two hours. And um and he told his story basically, which was like we never published this, obviously, because Vice was like I knew a girl because I was I I um worked a little bit for Weiss, yeah, I guess, as a photographer, videographer. Um, so I knew like the editor of Vice Sweden a little bit because we partied one night. And I and I wrote to her, like, hey, we got this story, here it is, like, here are the pictures. Pictures are amazing. I love those pictures. And she's like, Yeah, we're not gonna do that. So we had to like um, you know, go just ghost him basically. He was like, Hey, where's the story coming out? Uh, we had a really good time, like you change your phone number, yeah. Kind of, yeah, but he just gave up eventually. But uh, it was a very tragic story, actually. He was like kind of in the system, kind of been like in system like like social troubles. Okay, he had been in foster care and stuff, if I remember correctly. And then when he finally like managed to shape up his life, he got like robbed by a gang, like a terrible situation. They like dragged him down in a basement with like a machine gun, kind of, and just held him there, made him go to the ATM like a couple of times. Oh, like high school, like during a whole night, yeah. Oh god, and he was so traumatized by it, and he was just like, There was there was no other way for me to you know move on except to become like somebody who you know fight crimes. So he started like you know, training, like kickboxing, everything. No shit. Yeah, and then he put on this suit and just patrolled the streets every night.

SPEAKER_06

What a fucking king.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So I mean the story was there, it was amazing.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I because I remember when you told me about it. I didn't know he had any sort of like troubled background or like he had something traumatic happened. I just thought he was like a guy who just had like a cool suit.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but he had the coolest costume, he was called the Vector, like the guardian. Sick.

SPEAKER_06

Like had anyone heard of him before?

SPEAKER_02

Like, was he like there was a local uh the local paper wrote like a small thing about that? Yeah, but that was like a picture, you know, in the middle of the day, kind of when he showed off his outfit. Yeah, like uh, but there was no origin story or nothing like that.

SPEAKER_06

We got the full story is like fucking Batman a Joker.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, like it's just like a washing machine area, like a basement with washing machines, because we have this here. You know, all the houses have like their own kind of the laundry room, yeah, yeah. They just held him there for hours.

SPEAKER_06

That's how all these superheroes start in the comics.

SPEAKER_02

But Vigilante Chris, he has another TikTok prank, and then it was it.

SPEAKER_06

Me and him experienced the same level of trauma. And thank you for allowing me to trauma dump on the show because it's been something I've been carrying with me, weighting me down for 36 hours.

SPEAKER_02

Any day, my brother. And um this is uh you know, this is safe space.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, it's the nest.

SPEAKER_02

Except for that's we're gonna publish it, of course.

SPEAKER_06

So it's not I'll put it forever on the internet. But um no, I do feel a similar, like a Kindred Spirit with the uh the the garden uh the guardian from Copenhagen from Malma.

SPEAKER_02

I mean some small town, of course, village. That's insane.

SPEAKER_06

That's insane that he got held hostage at gunpoint for fucking cash.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I mean it's that they was gonna get fucked up from it, I think.

unknown

Wow.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, terrible.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I hope that guy's okay now. Yeah. Hopefully the streets are low.

SPEAKER_02

I wonder what happened to him actually. I mean he stopped, he stopped doing it after a while.

SPEAKER_06

Clearly, there was like a hole he was filling with this vigilanteism. Um, hopefully that hole has been filled.

SPEAKER_02

The only thing he managed to stop, he said, was like sex uh sex, like trafficking, kind of or no, not like trafficking, but uh like prostitution. Who's like, hey, get out of here. Yeah, kind of. Like he saw a car pulled up to like a lady of the night, as you call them. And then he's just like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, no, don't buy her.

SPEAKER_05

And they're like, No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04

I'm just hoeing.

SPEAKER_02

No, not the not the girl. Oh, the John. I mean, the John. Yeah, he is like, oh no, no, no, no.

unknown

Oh man.

SPEAKER_06

Grab the John's ear, like, yeah, dragged him to the principal's office. Oh man.

SPEAKER_05

So he did do something. He managed to do something.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, but I mean sure. I mean, she must have been pissed off. That's her profession.

SPEAKER_06

Well, whatever. Don't be with a hooker. Yeah. Could get clean. Don't be a john.

SPEAKER_02

Clean those streets up. Don't be a John.

SPEAKER_06

Don't be a hooker.

SPEAKER_02

Sure.

SPEAKER_06

Don't do any of it.

SPEAKER_02

Don't do anything illegal, or vigilante Chris is gonna put a knee in your back.

SPEAKER_06

Go get a pencil and a paper and draw pictures. Do something fun. Yeah. Something nice.

SPEAKER_02

Start a become an influencer and go get it. Get it. Online gambling. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Do that. You know? Keep it inside your house. Um, well, that's cool. I can't wait till you see the photos on the show. Yeah. Which we'll be having already, I guess. But yeah. Yeah. That's exciting. It's already done. What a life experience.

SPEAKER_02

It was good. It was cool. And then we were not journalists after that.

SPEAKER_05

Nice little kind of venture in, though. We tried it. We got the best story. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

And then we left. That's why Vice is no longer.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. You know? Could have been something.

SPEAKER_06

They didn't know what they had.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, shout out Kaiser. Adrid. Who's that? That's the editor.

SPEAKER_06

The ignoramus that didn't take take the take the story. Yeah. Politics, brother. Politics. She probably tried to give it to somebody in house and be like, yeah, there's a guy over here. You should go do a story on him. I just got a tip.

SPEAKER_02

No, she's still great. Radio, radio gal. Yeah. She's a podcaster, just like we are.

SPEAKER_06

Um not enough room for both of us.

SPEAKER_02

We will see.

SPEAKER_06

I still I will carry that grudge that she didn't take your story. Yeah. I will never be nice to her.

SPEAKER_02

It's okay. She gave me work.

SPEAKER_06

She couldn't spot talent.

SPEAKER_05

But um I think we're done.

SPEAKER_02

I love it.

SPEAKER_05

Episode number 10.

SPEAKER_02

Anything else? Yes. I mean, um, the merchandise shop. Yeah. It is gonna be up by this episode because I've been trying to figure out the shipping situation. Um somebody wrote me, like, hey, I want to buy this t-shirt, but should I really pay like$25 in shipping to Sweden? So something is wrong, but I'm gonna fix it. Okay. And when you hear this, it's gonna be up. Okay. Bunch of new stuff.

SPEAKER_03

Great.

SPEAKER_02

That's it.

SPEAKER_06

Right. That's good progress. That's big news. I like that. Yeah. Uh well, we will see you next week.

SPEAKER_05

For episode 11. Thank you for everything. Thanks. Stay safe. Bye-bye.