9. The malm whale, thermal cameras, dinosaurs, dragons and emotional youth

On this episode Per goes to the museum and survives a forest fire. He then explains the story of the Malm Whale to Chris. Chris goes on to question whether dinosaurs ever existed. This gets Per wondering if, perhaps, dragons are the real deal. Then, the guys skillfully redirect to an analysis of the Emo teenager phenomenon.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Love on the Spectrum with your star Pear Larson and your host Chris Shanting. That's me, guys. Oh man. Okay, we have to do it. And you just killed it. You just took it too far. We're leaving that. Fuck that. Um so you've got our studio light being repaired right now. Yeah. Um I was gonna do this behind the scenes, but you We got shit to do. We gotta get things done. We got shit to do after.

SPEAKER_04 0:31

We got no time. So I'm uh what do you think is the problem? Holding a screwdriver. Well, our light, uh don't touch the mic when you talk, please. It looks cool, but it's you can hear, you can literally hear. What is this this is the effect thing?

SPEAKER_02 0:51

The whole point with a stand is for you not to hold it. Dude, if I can't hold a mic stand, then it's like, what's the point of doing anything? It's kind of funny.

SPEAKER_04 0:59

You want to take a little ball or something for your hand?

SPEAKER_02 1:01

I do need I need to fidget.

SPEAKER_04 1:03

Yeah, you need something to fidget. I got a bunch of balls here. They're they're made for that. Do you have like a spinny thing? No spinners, no. Uh but you can take that ball, put it in your hand, and everything will be over and over the whole time I talk.

SPEAKER_02 1:19

Um, this was all right. Well, we're fixing our little studio light. We're multitasking this thing. I think we got a replacement bulb, and then I think the motherfucking light is actually broken.

unknown 1:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:32

It's like an 80s studio thing. I think we spoke about this in one of the earlier episodes.

SPEAKER_02 1:37

That's well, it's like it's a technology from the 80s that gets that it you get that right look. Yeah. You know, it's that right temperature.

SPEAKER_04 1:45

Um it's definitely not like safety built for safety. It's just like they made something as strong as possible. Maximum impact. Maximum light impact.

SPEAKER_02 1:57

Well, we're gonna get that going. Um what do you think about that? That looks solid, it looks good to me. Uh, I would take the the just keep anytime you see a screw, unscrew it. That's my policy with electronics. It's at it's a door that's asking to be opened. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't look like anything happened, though. Yeah, because it's probably behind that plate. Yeah. That's just another. But there's no like burn marks or anything. It serves no purpose. Everything is behind that. Um, I know an electrician, I've seen him fix things in my house. You just keep unscrewing things.

SPEAKER_04 2:32

You go deeper. Yeah. Well, now I'm on, it's the wrong bit.

SPEAKER_02 2:35

All right. Well, I'll talk if you want to get another bit.

SPEAKER_04 2:38

Yeah, do that. I'll be right back.

SPEAKER_02 2:40

Um let's see. Well, we've uh I don't know. I went to a uh a movie theater for the first time in two years Saturday night, and I don't think I'll be going back again anytime soon. I forgot that when you go to the movies, you don't see the trailers anymore. You see four hours of fucking commercials for shit you don't care about. And I happened to be going to a movie, uh, it was like Super Mario Brothers movie with my son and his friend and his friend's dad, and I was stunned. The kids were it got to a point where the kids were yelling, is the movie ever gonna start at the screen? And then, you know, there's like commercials of fucking retired like lesbian dog trainer couples, just like, we love our pension, and our teeth are still working, like just shit that nobody cares about. Then there's like a Rolex commercial, then there's like some sort of euphoria ripoff ad for fucking sneakers or something where two people are making out. I'm sitting there with my five-year-old son, just like, what the fuck is this? And then the movie was in Swedish, so I sat there and like listened to a podcast. You know, but I was more I was more amazed at like the newish. You walk in, you spend like 50 bucks on garbage candy and like special cups that are like franchised, and then um you get in, and then they're like, Here's a half hour of fucking commercials that are directed at kind of nobody in particular. And your kids like, look, they're kissing, you know, like it's just like, what is that? Like, can't we watch Super Mario Brothers? Like, what the f oh you went to Mario uh. Yeah, there's like and there's like a Rolex ad with Zendeha who's like, you know, no one told me being this rich would be so hard. You know, like she's complaining about her life as the point of the commercial, and then it's like Rolex. Um her life isn't hard. No, but it's like a dumb fucking actress who's filthy rich complaining about how hard her life is, and then they trying to sell you a watch at the end of the commercial, and then you can watch Super Mario Bros.

SPEAKER_04 4:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:50

Uh I have no problem with Hollywood buckling and continue to continue to implode at this point. It's just they've lost the plot. It's so fucked. It's time for us small folk. Yeah, little guys gotta get back in the ring. Um who knows? Maybe where the next Sende is. I always kind of I mean, I it's awkward to tell you, but I have been saying that about you. About me? Next Sendeha. Did you to who? Uh just like people. You've been like buttering me up. I'm like, this kid's got it. And you know, he can do like fake kitty porn in a high school movie, and then he can be like an alien race, you know? Yeah, maybe. Um we just gotta get you in the tanning booth. We gotta get you out of the way.

SPEAKER_04 5:37

Somebody told me I got the face like that. Yeah. A very unpunishable face, but also like a chameleon.

SPEAKER_02 5:43

We could tan you up and like you could have like a couple different plot lines.

SPEAKER_04 5:48

I could be um I could be Randy Savage.

SPEAKER_02 5:52

Yeah, my son thinks you are Randy Savage or he he asked me one day if you're Macho Man. Yeah. Which I thought was I mean, that's a little better than it's a bump up from Zendeha.

SPEAKER_04 6:03

Yeah, I mean it is definitely a compliment. Yeah. Maybe I should do like practice more um uh macho man like impressions, you know I so I could do it like a birthday party or something.

SPEAKER_02 6:16

If there was ever a path to success, I think it's that for you.

SPEAKER_04 6:20

Yeah. Um well that's a stop because now it's wires.

SPEAKER_02 6:26

But that's the fun part.

SPEAKER_04 6:27

Yeah, but so this is the it just it doesn't go anywhere. I think I have to open it up from behind now.

SPEAKER_02 6:33

Yeah, dude. Rip this bitch open. Alright, well, that's cool. That's a cool activity you just did.

SPEAKER_04 6:41

I mean, I did something and now I can't I don't want to put it back. Just throw the screws everywhere so you don't it's fun when you gotta look for stuff. Put this on the street because we're outside, remember? We're outside our little shop.

SPEAKER_02 6:54

Put it down the corner there. Uh what did you did? You do things besides prep for your electrician's debut.

unknown 7:07

Alright.

SPEAKER_02 7:09

Yeah, thanks.

SPEAKER_04 7:11

I also did uh things. I went um I went to the museum. Nice. Forgot to tell you about that. It's the big one. Have you been there? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 7:27

I've been to a lot of museums, but I don't know which one's bigger than the others.

SPEAKER_04 7:30

The national uh history museum of arts or something.

SPEAKER_02 7:40

I'm just having too much fun with the mic. You're just making micro. So you went to the Natural History Museum of the Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 7:47

The National The National Museum of uh History and Arts or something. National, yeah. Not natural. National. Okay. Natural history museum is a I think it's called that in English. It's the big one. So it's an art museum. It's the is it the modern? No, it's like a it's with animals. It's like everything that's in Sweden, basically.

SPEAKER_02 8:06

So it's not the Tars. It's not natural history museum.

SPEAKER_04 8:10

Yeah, yes. Natural Museum words. National and natural. That's true, you're right.

SPEAKER_02 8:16

Distinguishably two words. Language barrier.

SPEAKER_04 8:18

Okay, don't judge. I know you're irritated.

SPEAKER_02 8:21

My superior language needs to be understood. Sorry for nothing. Okay, so it was like in your language. Well while you're in my country. Yeah. Country. I'm glad you can take a step towards me in this situation. But so this is the museum that's like everything biological. Yes. True. That sounds cool. I went there. What kind of um stuff did you enjoy there?

SPEAKER_04 8:44

I saw a bunch of animals first. I think first floors kind of dinosaur dinosaur vibe and all the old animals. The first ones, the amoebas and the um, you know, the hard shell thingies. Yes. The the fish that were all were almost rocks. Uh-huh. The swimmy things that kind of lived. Um I went there, it was pretty cool. Went around. I liked looking at the small like the mice and stuff. Um, there was a cool fire booth you could go into. Like uh it was just like this is what it feels like to be inside a forest fire. Sick. And it was just like a hut, you went in there and it was like I think it felt like it was like the temperature were was higher.

SPEAKER_02 9:32

Did you try like screaming?

SPEAKER_00 9:36

I'm burning. Ow! Ow.

SPEAKER_02 9:41

It's next to like a random Taurus couple.

SPEAKER_04 9:44

No, I was in there alone and when it's kind of meditative. Um that was cool. There was also like I thought about the the whale. There is like a whale in there in the in a room, and then I I remembered that I read something about like a a blue whale. Nice being um because we I know we have one in Sweden. I thought it was in Stockholm.

SPEAKER_02 10:09

Like in an aquarium?

SPEAKER_04 10:11

No, no, no, no, it's not alive, it's very dead. But we have one of the best preserved uh blue whales in the world. Well, somehow. How did it like so the story goes because now I looked it up. I know I wasn't, because you know, I don't want to lie in this show. It's pretty important. I don't want to lie to you guys. Okay. So I looked it up this morning when I woke up way too early. So apparently uh it's in Gothenburg. Okay. And it's called the the Malma whale. Um you use the data the Malma whale? Oh, that's that's funny. Ow! I'm gonna insert like a little drum drummy. Nice, all right. Keep going.

SPEAKER_02 10:54

So it's from Malma.

SPEAKER_04 10:55

No, not Malmo. It's in Gothenburg. Okay. Malm Whale. Malm whale. A lot of things are Malms here. Soutermalm, Esther Malm.

SPEAKER_02 11:06

What does that word mean? That part of a word mean.

SPEAKER_04 11:09

Well, I'm not lying now. I'm just thinking. Oh no, I just think it's it's some kind of rock. Because every language on topic.

SPEAKER_00 11:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 11:20

Um makes sense. Whatever. Two fishermen found a whale, like in 18 something, 65. They were out fishing, they found this like it's massive. Those are the biggest. It's like an adolescent whale. So it's not as big as like the mama, but it is still massive.

SPEAKER_02 11:40

Oh shit. So it's just the child.

SPEAKER_04 11:43

Yeah. Like uh how big is it? Uh I think it's like 16 meters. You know how big that is in in in inches or five?

SPEAKER_02 11:52

Let me go to my uh producer real quick.

SPEAKER_04 11:54

I think it's what what what can that be? 16 meters, you say? 16 meters to feet.

SPEAKER_02 12:00

Is that how you guys sixteen meters and feet? Let's get that translation. 52 fucking feet. Yeah, it's a big one. Also, it's 5,921 inches if you want to, if you're an inch guy. But that's huge. Yeah, it is bigger than a fucking school bus.

SPEAKER_04 12:20

Yeah, it's a big boy. It's like five stories tall. So they found him and they're and it was still alive, it was stranded. Oh, wow. Okay. So it was like it it swam in two shallow waters, kind of. And it was just laying there, and I read about what they did to it, and it was kind of gruesome. Did they poke it? They poked the eye out instantly. This is back in those days when when people didn't respect animals.

SPEAKER_02 12:45

Did they think it was like a sea monster?

SPEAKER_04 12:47

They thought it was something else because I mean, yeah, but not not big ones like that. It was like a so they poked the eye out and then they went back with like a um uh like a scythe. Is that uh correct? Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 13:03

And they like for people that don't know, that's like what it's like the grim reaper has that. The reaper's weapon. Yeah, you get the wheat or the soles or whatever.

SPEAKER_04 13:11

Yeah. Uh they went back with one of those and like shoved it into the neck or something. Eventually it died. It bled out.

SPEAKER_02 13:18

I'd imagine if you just kept stabbing it, it would die.

SPEAKER_04 13:21

Yeah, but I mean it's just I mean back then I I don't think you blew up whales. That's what you do when they like when you can't put it back in the water, you just blow that shit off.

SPEAKER_02 13:30

Usually it's dead when they do that. They don't just blow it up.

SPEAKER_04 13:32

Yeah, it's like looking at you like, hey, I think there's a chance I can still make it. Strapping a suicide vest to it, and it's like just go to sleep.

unknown 13:44

Just go to sleep, it's not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_04 13:48

Yeah, they killed it, and then some kind of some rich guy bought it. Like he was like instantly like, ah I'm gonna I can profit off of this. Yeah. So he went out there, he bought it for 1500 kroners.

SPEAKER_02 14:02

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 14:03

That's like one 150 bucks, guys.

SPEAKER_02 14:05

Well, probably like five grand now or something, or five thousand dollars. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:09

No, it's but still it's not a lot of money now. This is like a hundred uh hundred and fifty years ago, yeah, yeah. But um the guy bought it, he brought it back somehow. They like managed to like uh bring it back with a lot of boats, and I think they built some kind of uh like a barge. Yeah, some like big sticks. Yeah. They managed to turn it around or something. They brought it back to the land and managed to transport it to Gothenburg, and the rich guy I think he like donated it or he kind of lent it, lent lended it. Lent lent it to um a taxidermy guy who got the job to kind of okay, we need uh That's a big job, big gig. Yeah, we need to like fix this up because the world needs to see it.

SPEAKER_02 14:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:01

Um so the guy uh he does that. He tries in a lot of ways, tries to like to they take out all the meat. First of all, they had a breakfast on the beach that day, I forgot to say. Whales like whale steak. Yeah. They were like, we need to eat before this thing rots. They can feed the whole city. Yeah. Um so that happened. You know, they managed to fix it up. And now they transport it into Gothenburg. Because this is outside of some coastal small city or something. Um they get it back into the city, they put that shit in the museum. True. I mean, it's just booming. True.

SPEAKER_02 15:48

It's the fucking biggest thing ever that ever was.

SPEAKER_04 15:51

And also there's something about the jaw. It's like it when you find animals like this, it's very hard to preserve the jaw kind of. Because they can manually open the shit. They made it so they can like open the mouth. Oh, okay. But the thing is now it's just an empty whale. They didn't stuff it? No, no, there's nothing in it. It's like it's hollow.

SPEAKER_02 16:14

Oh, they sort of like built like studs or whatever to hold it up.

SPEAKER_04 16:17

So they're like, how what are we supposed to do with this now?

SPEAKER_02 16:21

Go inside it.

SPEAKER_04 16:22

Yes. Hang out. So they started doing like dinners inside of it.

SPEAKER_02 16:28

Oh, luxury. I like it.

SPEAKER_04 16:29

Yeah. Like uh they even turned it into a coffee shop, allegedly. One other served tea and stuff. Yeah. They took it around the world. I think it's a good one. It's a show now. It's like our show. It's a global show. Touring. Oh, they I know they took it to Germany at least and showed it at like some zoo week or something. I don't know. That kind of makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 16:56

Um next to the bearded lady. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:02

But then they moved it to like a public space. Somehow. I think they put it in like a park or something. They didn't know what they had at the time. You know? Give it like ten years after you find the biggest fish, yeah. Or mammal. Then you're like, uh, fuck it. Trends die. Yeah. We need to like um the people need to enjoy it now. So they put it in a park, I think, and then people started fucking inside of it.

SPEAKER_02 17:32

That's people.

SPEAKER_04 17:33

Couple just like, hey, you wanna go have sex in the whale? I mean, it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. I mean, I would definitely what years were if I was into like, you know, public freak sex? Yeah, freak freaky things like that. Which I'm not.

SPEAKER_02 17:48

Was it crash that movie was like then?

SPEAKER_04 17:50

I would definitely go uh.

SPEAKER_02 17:52

They fucking car accidents, but these people fucking dead whales, taxidermy whales.

SPEAKER_04 17:56

Yeah, it's pretty niche. So now they and now they're like okay, maybe we should like not have it public, put it in the museum again, and now it's only open um some days. You can go inside of it, you can always see it, but now you can always only go inside of it like in special occasions.

SPEAKER_02 18:14

The whale fuckers protest. Yeah.

unknown 18:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:17

Yeah. So that whale is where in Gothamberg.

SPEAKER_04 18:20

Yes, it's got isn't it's not the whale that I saw. Oh. Because I um I was getting excited when I was walking around, like maybe I could go in the whale. But then yeah, it wasn't there.

SPEAKER_02 18:30

Ah, okay.

SPEAKER_04 18:31

Um, so that's my that's my animal story. That is sorry, mammal.

SPEAKER_02 18:38

Very love on the spectrum. That is a great day.

SPEAKER_04 18:42

Why are you referring to me as like somebody on the spectrum?

SPEAKER_02 18:45

I don't know. It came up to me, it just like popped into my head.

SPEAKER_04 18:48

Are you shaming like people with whale stories?

SPEAKER_02 18:50

You're on the spectrum. No, I'm perfect. I am infallible. That's what you gotta understand. Yeah. No, I just it it popped up uh yesterday, and I was like, yeah, that is a qua pretty crazy show. Have you seen it? I have. It's and it could be like, yeah, some I've seen like a few, and I've just been like, oh man, oh it's so beautiful.

SPEAKER_04 19:10

It is, I mean, it is um fuck. Love is an amazing thing. If you're not like full of yourself, then it's so easy to follow.

SPEAKER_02 19:20

So it's always been tough for me.

SPEAKER_04 19:22

Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_02 19:26

Um I think I've been to that museum because there I've I I used to take my kid to the dinosaur thing, which is like we almost specifically went to that room for hours on end.

SPEAKER_04 19:38

You like dinos, too. Kids, all kids do. I found like a little frog-looking um dinosaur that I really liked. It just looked dumb. I feel so much for the things that look, you know, mentally challenged. I bet you do. In biology. Well placed in their heart. Yeah. No, it's just like I wanna I wanna help them.

SPEAKER_02 20:06

Yeah, it's like you're not gonna make it, buddy.

SPEAKER_04 20:09

Yeah, like oh Jesus, you're not giving giving like the looks to you're not convincing other animals not to fuck with you. Yeah, you're a target, yeah. Yeah, and that was it. Yeah, I I saw I uh and then I went to the last, like the the floor and like the sh the last part of the museum, kind of.

SPEAKER_02 20:33

I think I've only been to that one floor. What else is it? It's four floors, yeah. It's a lot.

SPEAKER_04 20:37

I I got so like exhausted by looking at all these birds and stones and shit. Yeah. Um and the last floor was kind of about biology more. Like it was like kind of like a lab. Yeah. Like uh, we're doing this test, and this is what we know about the brain, and like I got to pick up some kind of rice bag, and it's supposed to be the equivalent of a human brain's weight, kind of but uh I did it.

SPEAKER_02 21:06

You did what?

SPEAKER_04 21:08

I finally proved it. What what what was proven? The heat sensory camera. I proved it. Expand on that. You know these cameras. From the Predator. Yeah. I uh I farted.

SPEAKER_02 21:29

Oh, you did the fart. So it's not a made-up story, it's not AI. You you just pumped one out.

SPEAKER_04 21:35

I um let's just say I saved up for it. Wow. On demand. But uh nothing happened. The hot air didn't register? Didn't work.

SPEAKER_02 21:46

Then the whole thing's fake. I mean the farthest or do you do like cold farts?

SPEAKER_04 21:51

Debunked the fart on camera. Maybe that I mean I don't understand. That should work. No. Do you fart cold? It's not hot, it's not hot enough. Do you? You think you just fart cold?

SPEAKER_02 22:01

I'm a cold farter. Yeah, I think so. Because I don't understand how to do it. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 22:04

My farts are I can feel the heat. Believe me.

SPEAKER_02 22:08

It should be the temperature of your body.

SPEAKER_04 22:11

I don't think it's hot enough. Maybe they were blowing cold air at your ass.

SPEAKER_02 22:15

Maybe that's what they do. They have like a fart protective, like vent. They're like nobody's no funny business.

SPEAKER_04 22:22

They can't know about this.

SPEAKER_02 22:23

They've had too many people try, so this is not gonna register. Like a fart-smelling museum, nothing. Because then everyone, just like the people fucking in the whale, there'd be people and they're just farting all over the place. Like, hey, check it out. Tell your friend, get here. You can film it, go on TikTok. Like, it just ruined the museum. Yeah, but I um didn't work for me at least. That's that would really like increase participation in the museum if you could go there and witness your like see your fart.

SPEAKER_04 22:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:50

That's a shame. Although I'm still willing to go try. Um, but I didn't know they had uh that camera there. That camera's so fucking cool. It is it's like the coolest camera that anyone ever made.

SPEAKER_04 23:06

That's the first thing you think about.

SPEAKER_02 23:08

You're just like, this is it. Yeah, this is how the alien sees me. Yeah. This is how I'm hunted.

SPEAKER_04 23:13

It's so cool. Yeah. First you think about the predator, and then you think about some kind of supreme graphic or something.

SPEAKER_02 23:20

Yeah, sure. Uh but I feel like it that's that's my two references to for me. It's just it's like the 80s Cold War, like, what's gonna hap the oh what's gonna happen fucking headspace. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:35

We need to do a shirt with that.

SPEAKER_02 23:37

Yeah, there was a great one. I think hockey did something with like uh, but it was like an actual advertisement in like Life magazine or something, and it was like the Predator camera with dudes in gas masks, but it was like serious, it was like be prepared kind of propaganda. It was fucking gnarly. It's you can find it on the internet, super gnarly. But uh, yeah, that it's the coolest camera.

SPEAKER_04 24:01

And that was my trip to the museum of natural history.

SPEAKER_02 24:06

Natural the national historical art.

SPEAKER_04 24:09

The national art museum. Oh yeah, one more thing. Um this is not a new bird. This is a very famous bird on the internet. But I saw it, I never seen like it face to face. I was face to face with that big fucking bird who has the beak. You know, you know the you know the bird?

SPEAKER_02 24:39

The all the it's it's every bird. It's like a with a beak.

SPEAKER_04 24:42

It's kind of like a stork. But it looks just like it looks like the biggest demon. Is it like a curved beak?

SPEAKER_02 24:49

Like skinny long?

SPEAKER_04 24:51

Every bird has a beak. I know, but it I can't do you need just Google like big uh big African stork.

SPEAKER_02 25:03

I always Google that.

SPEAKER_04 25:04

That's sounds it makes a sound with his beak that is just terrifying.

SPEAKER_02 25:11

Big beak African big beak African scary bird. Bird. Let's see what the search engine brings back to me. It's good. Beak while I spell beak properly. Oh, this motherfucker? The shoe bill? Yes, shoe bill. Yeah, that one's not cool. That's nightmare.

SPEAKER_04 25:30

It is the most I'm not even sure that's real.

SPEAKER_02 25:33

That can't be real. It's like a guy in a fucking bird suit.

SPEAKER_04 25:36

Yeah, it is. He looks about seven feet tall. He's like got a- I saw it. It was in like one of these uh would he have to duck to come through your door?

SPEAKER_02 25:43

Or how tall is he?

SPEAKER_04 25:45

He's not that big.

SPEAKER_02 25:46

He was only kind of yeah, you know when you see like proportions of something and there's no frame of reference, but you're like, that's six feet tall. There's no way that's not the size of a person.

SPEAKER_04 25:56

Put put up uh put up a video of the shoe bill sound.

SPEAKER_02 26:00

Uh shoebill sound.

SPEAKER_04 26:04

Sounds like uh also like like a jander almost, like shoe bill. Um like bill who fixes the shoes.

SPEAKER_02 26:10

Yeah, no, it would be it's like uh oh, here it is. That's not shoe bill. That wasn't my history. Um okay, shoebill sound.

SPEAKER_03 26:26

Hey, that's not shoebill.

SPEAKER_02 26:28

That's not a bird. Shoe bill stork sound. Yeah. Oh boy. All right, this is stuff with a nightmares. Oh, someone oh that's the sound.

SPEAKER_04 26:49

Sounds like an AK.

SPEAKER_02 26:51

Come on, really? I thought that was like, you know, just a silly video, like like a gun. Let's get let's get a second opinion. Holy shit, that is real. That's a demon. That's not a that's no, but here that you can see that, okay. I could see like the throat work, yeah. But the shrieking layered over, yeah. The clicking like why that's that's a demon. Yeah, these are demons, just keep them away.

SPEAKER_04 27:20

It's only existing to like scare. It does no good.

SPEAKER_02 27:24

No, it's just that's terrifying. Yeah. Um dude, I just want to fucking chill on the mic stand. I just want to chill on this.

SPEAKER_04 27:34

You're so cool, you can't stop touching it.

SPEAKER_02 27:36

I spent my years watching like Axl Rose with his mic stand just do everything.

SPEAKER_04 27:40

Maybe we should do an episode where you you can just walk around like with a mic in your hand, like squatting and turning it upside down to the city.

SPEAKER_02 27:47

Dude, that would be sick, man. Yeah. And we'll do an episode where we just shoot predator style for you. We can each get a thing. We'll do like a themed episode. Maybe we could do it right now. Predator style?

SPEAKER_00 28:01

Yeah.

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I'm not sure if we have Carl with us this. He was very happy.

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But I haven't managed to um talk to him about, you know, he's getting a little following up.

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A little free advertisement right now, actually. But um well, we'll send him an invoice and see if he wants to pay again. Then we'll just do like a eventually it'll be like a biopic episode. Yeah, maybe we need to like set like a monthly like an automatic kind of for him. Yeah. I think that would be cool. All right, we're back from our station break. Um, I was reading this book, my kid loves. It doesn't even matter, but it's uh it's how I got to this mindset. And it's uh about some characters and they're like time traveling, and they end up in this like dinosaur world. And uh they try they time travel by accident. They weren't planning to go there. They thought they were just going straight to a place on earth, but they ended up 65 million years behind in the time line of time. And uh they get it's like there's hijinks, whatever, there's they're running from dinosaurs, there's silly stuff, my kids laughing, I'm doing voices, and then they get to this part where, like, hey man, if you don't move, the T-Rex can't see you. And I'm staring at that, like, well, that's that's quite the assumption. And then, and then another guy says, That's not a T-Rex, that's a velociraptor, they can see movement. And I'm sitting here like reading this stuff to my kid, like, uh what the fuck are we talking about here, boys? Like, yeah, who came up with this theory? And then uh, anyway, I finna reading the book and it like stuck in my head like about all the things I've always kind of heard about how like the dinosaur thing, you'll love this, but the dinosaur thing is uh a little bit at least partially very constructed to fill major gaps in like uh an idea, yeah. Um, but when things like oh yeah, the T-Rex can't see motion is said in total confidence and seriousness, and you're just like what the fuck? Yeah, I mean, I we're glad they were extinct. No, but I just mean who the fuck could decide that idea? Like, where is there any evidence for uh a T-Rex's vision of motion versus fucking not mo or you know what I mean? Like to distinguish peripherals and depth of field, and like then if you just say it a bunch, suddenly it's in a children's book. Yeah, um, so I kind of like put the book down last night and was like, dude, this is retarded. Like, this is I don't care that they're saying this in this story, but like, where does this come from? Are you saying that you investigated? Well, I mean, I did snoop, but I've this stuff I've heard over the years of people are like that are just like dinosaurs aren't real, and I'm like, I'm not ready for that. Like, that's a lot, but then you get older and you find out how much stuff that you're supposed to believe is bullshit, so you're kind of the door starts opening, yeah. Um, and I'm I'm in no way about to tell you that I've concluded my case, but at this age, I've seen so many things that were sure, like surely true, and then they're like, Yeah, that would be kind of made that shit up like to get something done. So I looked up like the first case of a dinosaur discovery, and uh it was in the Ohio River, I think, in the United States, and like this was about the middle of the 1800s, kind of around when they were stabbing the fucking whale in the eye. Um the monster days, yeah. It was like they were transitioning into a new science. So these guys, there was a guy who like, I think right around when they came up with like there's evolution, things evolve from like, you know, you a rock turns into a fish, a fish turns into a lizard, a lizard turns into a bird, blah blah blah. Now we have Beethoven. So uh this was around um that period of time, and some guy hypothesized well, I bet you there were like land lizards that were fucking huge running all over the place, but they had no fossils. There was just this idea, and I think it was to connect, they needed to connect a certain dot in evolution, which I still think is mostly true, but now I'm starting to question everything. But uh 12 years later, the guy who hypothesized this is on like an expedition in the Ohio River basin, which is like a gold rush of fossils. But at the time he was the first one to find it. So he finds two teeth that he can't, he finds nothing else yet. He finds two teeth and he sends them all the way back to England to the Royal British Academy, which is now deciding dinosaurs are a thing. The two teeth are constructed. An artist basically constructs the entire dinosaur based on his idea of what a dinosaur is, and that's the first dinosaur. Is there other pictures? Uh, I believe you it's called uh a rough toothed dinosaur, and the guy's name is like Ferdinand Hayden. Well, how how is it named dinosaur? Because that means uh that's some Latin. It's Latin, I'm sure. I mean, you could look it up, yeah, but um, all the names are generally Latin. Um but then I got to thinking, like, all right, some fucking guy who's probably been drawing, drawing like dragons and cows and shit and animals his whole life gets two teeth, and he's like, This is going to be the first dinosaur, the rough-toothed dinosaur. What a job, first of all. But I mean, it it again it leaves like a little bit of like uh when you only got two percent of a thing, and then someone fills in the 98%, and you're like, well, okay.

SPEAKER_04 36:08

But I mean, his version is not today's version.

SPEAKER_02 36:11

No, it's just the first dinosaur.

SPEAKER_04 36:13

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:14

So there becomes suddenly everything's a dinosaur fossil. Suddenly, everywhere you look, there's fucking fossils everywhere, and there's never been a fossil discovered before this guy came up with this theory. And then suddenly there's dinosaur bones fucking everywhere, and everyone's getting paid, and everyone's shipping shit to museums, and they never quite find an actual skeleton, they find like a thing, and they're like, Oh, that looks like a hip bone, send it to the museum, and the museum's like, well, it's okay, that's that's a femur, and then we're gonna glue the end of it on so it's a full femur. And uh, what are you saying? You can look this up, yeah. But what are you well? I'm saying what I'm saying, you're saying what you're hearing. I'm saying that there are huge holes in this, yeah. And you if you take it in the context of the time, they're trying to wrestle power away from like the church in the last 200 years, which is like there's no dinosaur, they're just like, dude, the Bible's in charge, there's no dinosaurs. So, like, science is trying to just like grab power over people's brains from the church. So they're filling in these theories and they're getting these ideas constructed, a lot of which are true, some of which have fucking huge holes, but they're all just like building them up to get power from that power source, yeah, and put it towards like science and government, as we've seen in the last five years. Um it's a big brand, dinosaurs. I mean, it's huge. It's and after also, like, you know, having a young child, everything is fucking dinosaurs for like the first five years of their lives, yeah. But so, anyways, uh it booms. It but it's like the gold rush in California and Alaska. It booms. There's entire fucking dynasties built on like bone finding. There's a book called like the bone wars, where people are just like, we discovered 500 dinosaurs this summer, and then like 12 get like or 32 in that book turn out to be possibly legitimate. The other ones are just sort of like shuffled bags of rocks and and animal bones and human bone human bones that get discarded eventually. And then I was like, all right, this is getting off to a rocky start as far as like the the beginning of the dinosaur age goes. And then I start to find out that basically every single thing you see in a museum is a replica. There are no bones in these museums, there are factories in China that build replicas of the dinosaurs they're instructed to. Except for in New York. I would wager that that none of those are real bones.

SPEAKER_04 38:55

Yeah, maybe. I mean, because it's too expensive.

SPEAKER_02 38:58

But they but the thing is they never get a skeleton, they get like a jaw bone, like the lower jaw, and then some guy comes in and he's like, Yeah, this is a fucking screw you saurus, and like that he's about 20 feet tall, 30 feet long, blah blah blah blah, boom. Put it in the book, and then send the blueprint to China, they're gonna build this fucking thing that we're gonna put in a museum and we're gonna get Monet. So, like, this happens all over the place. I'm not saying dinosaurs aren't real, but I'm saying something constructed like an industry of very like confident fucking claims, and then they just gave up putting things in museums, they just started building shit with like plaster of Paris. Yeah, and uh and now they don't the reason they say they don't put things in museums is that they're all decaying, like they can't use that because that has to be put in like a sealed vault because like the real ones suddenly starting to decompose, and it's like dog, these things are supposed to be 65 million years old and they started decaying like last year.

SPEAKER_04 40:09

Yeah, is that the deal? But they've been preserved in clay and shit. I mean they have been you I mean, you know, they found humans that are like in perfect condition almost because 10,000 years, true, not 65 million. So once in clay, you're here to stay.

SPEAKER_02 40:25

I mean, I guess that's shirt that they have. But I just started thinking like, dude, how many fucking like Hail Mary things are we supposed to be like? Yep, that's cool. I guess I won't ever ask that question.

SPEAKER_04 40:39

Yeah, but I mean it's not the most questionable thing, then it's way more fun to like question the Bible. Sure, these are just like stupid monsters. It's fun to play with the idea of them, yeah. And it's not really hurting anyone if it's like wrong.

SPEAKER_02 40:57

Here's the thing, it like it's you st you start to go into like what the fuck else it like starts to unravel everything. I'm not spiraling because I kind of think this about most things that I've been told. Um but yeah, going through it and like I looked up things where like the physical structure of like some of these dinosaurs they're saying are supposed to like run 60 miles an hour because they're basing it off like a Jaguar's physiology, is just like their guts would fall out of their fucking rib cage. Yeah. Um but I had fun looking through this stuff, and I don't think I don't know. I mean, it's like so much so many things in my life I've just been like, that was not fucking true, and we had to sit there and pretend it was. Why why would that not apply to other things that are like massive? Yeah. Um, or at least like, don't call me silly for asking the question when the batting average is pretty fucking low on the other side, you know. Um, so I had fun looking through that all because of this fucking book, and I still don't quite understand how you can look at me in the sh like in the eye and be like, yeah, well, we know that a certain dinosaur has only visual optics or visual, like can only sense motion, and other ones can't.

SPEAKER_04 42:13

Yeah. Is there like a disclaimer in the children's books? Like, hey, because the thing is we're not actually sure of this, but because I mean I thought about this, you know, and you know what? I mean, I think they're like humble to the scientists or the the researchers, they're humble to change, right? Because I thought about this in the uh national art.

SPEAKER_02 42:36

That would place the best case scenario.

SPEAKER_04 42:39

I thought about this because now they started putting feathers. Yeah, but now that's that's like a new idea.

SPEAKER_02 42:44

Like, oh wait, if there were more bird-like that was in Jurassic Park. That was the theory that was like for me, that started the conversation in Jurassic Park. That guy's theory in his book was like maybe they turned into birds, and they're like, they did turn into birds in the movie. No, not turned into birds.

SPEAKER_04 43:01

That they were more no, that they were more bird-like than they were reptile-like.

SPEAKER_02 43:07

I would wager if you go back to that book that movie, it's a lot of it is like saying that they turned into birds, they evolved into birds.

SPEAKER_04 43:15

Uh huh.

SPEAKER_02 43:15

Because like T-Rex got little chicken wings and shit.

SPEAKER_04 43:18

Yeah, yeah. Because now some of the big ones, they kind of turned like a hybrid bird reptile looking. Yeah. I mean, they did not look like the dinosaurs I saw as a kid in the museum. Yeah. So something happens.

SPEAKER_02 43:30

So there's a trend, there's like scientific trends that blow through, and then everyone's on board because that's where the budgets are, and that's where you're gonna get noticed, and that's where you can go to the lectures.

SPEAKER_03 43:40

Like, hey, Sweden, we're gonna need you to change the LSRs a bit. For the 27 uh plan, yeah, we're gonna need some more feathers there. So you need to update uh the statue.

SPEAKER_02 43:51

Do you want your six billion dollars in five?

SPEAKER_03 43:53

Here are the new uh movies you're gonna uh project.

SPEAKER_02 43:56

I'm telling you. This is what it is. Think about it. I mean, yeah, I mean I am thinking about it currently because if if you I looked at it standing back and was like they need to get evolution going because it seems to make sense and it pull it pulls the pants down on all church stuff. Yeah. And then you get well, we gotta keep this rolling, how are we gonna do it? So the British Royal Academy of Science jumps in and was like, that's it, we got the fucking dinosaurs. And then yeah, I don't know. I got to thinking because of this one kid's book. Yeah. With a little reckless plot, you know, making claims. But what is what is your take? You love to fight the power. Fuck the power.

SPEAKER_04 44:40

That's what I say. Uh what's my take? Yeah. I was gonna say before that the black market is kind of interesting when it comes to dyno uh thingies, because as you said, I don't I still I don't believe that they have like authentic bones in the museums. Yeah. Um I heard that the one in New York is the only real T-Rex in the world because But that's such a like a beautiful story. Yeah, but I heard that, so I I knew when I was going into the dino thing that none of this is real, obviously. Yeah, like it's just fake stuff. But I remembered a few years ago, a friend of mine, a celebrity, nice, famous guy, pop singer, he um he got offered to buy to like share a skull? Yeah, like a skull of a dino. Because when you're like rich and famous, weird people approach you.

SPEAKER_02 45:42

Yeah, Nick Cage has a fucking T-Rex skull.

SPEAKER_04 45:45

Yeah, and um some guy just approached him or like reached out to him somehow, and he's just like, well, friend of mine is a collector of sorts. Are you interested in owning a dinosaur skull? Yeah, like what do you say? It was a lot of money, it's like a half a mil or something, just uh you know, co-own it.

SPEAKER_02 46:06

Because you can't actually it's like it's like but what do you do?

SPEAKER_04 46:10

You can't put it in your living room, it's like in a house somewhere, but it's got your name on it.

SPEAKER_02 46:14

Yeah, and I think people will be like, that belongs in a museum, you can't have it, you gotta give it back blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_04 46:18

Like it would become like own it on paper. Yeah, even you're just like Which makes sense. You can tell your other celebrity friends that you uh I kind of if we do enough drugs, I'll show you the skull. You can snap those. We could go, we could go there. It's in that summer house at 8:52 in the morning. We can look at the skull.

SPEAKER_02 46:37

You want to see it? Yeah, yeah. But I think that might be like a little hustle. I don't know. I just think all the money generated off of the idea, it's natural. Like you get a cool thing, it's a fucking monster. It's like crypto. It's just I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 46:53

You know, you don't know if it works or not, but it works right now.

SPEAKER_02 46:58

Yeah, that's it's like a magic spell. Yeah, you know, it's like I cast value onto this digits, yeah. I cast realness onto this partially fake skull. It is. I didn't like this is where my head went, yeah, like rapid fire after I was staring at this book. I was like, oh my god, dude, like everything came apart. I was like, it's another fucking scam. Yeah, it's just is because they say it is. Um, and now honestly, I'm diving, I'm going in, I'm gonna look at more stuff. So what do you think they looked like? I don't know if they were fucking dinosaurs. I don't like I can't now. I'm like, well, if you don't even nowhere on earth is there a complete dinosaur, but I mean they found like they find like toes and feet elbows and silhouettes of dinosaurs.

SPEAKER_04 48:09

Like just a couple of weeks ago, they found like a complete baby and uh mother.

SPEAKER_02 48:14

I would I need to see that, yeah, because that crushes my entire theory.

SPEAKER_04 48:19

Of course, they found like half complete dinosaurs.

SPEAKER_02 48:21

I mean, the whole thing is like the thing that kicks it off is that they've never found a complete skeleton of any dinosaur, and they just named like a million dinosaurs. So they're like kind of it's like poetic license.

SPEAKER_04 48:34

Well, Google like dinosaur findings 2026. Okay. It was one of those, if I remember correctly, not like um like a plant eater. The kind one.

SPEAKER_02 48:55

I don't know if that's the finding dinosaur. Funding. Maybe that's a happy accident.

SPEAKER_04 49:01

No, not funding, and it's a reading.

SPEAKER_02 49:04

Uh yeah, no, it autocorrected finding, but that's not how you really say it. Dinosaur Discovery. That's what it would be. 2026. New dinosaur discovered, 2026. What do we got? The Spinosaurus Mirabal.

SPEAKER_04 49:22

Not new, that's like new breeds. We need to find uh Well, I don't think it's a new breed. It's an old breed. Yeah, but a new species. I mean you can discover stuff all the time.

SPEAKER_02 49:38

Yeah, so what should I look up? Skeleton or remains or fossils?

SPEAKER_04 49:42

Let me take over. Try fossils. Dinosaur findings 2026. New skull of a Kiang Jian Zaurus.

SPEAKER_02 49:59

Okay, what do they say this thing does?

SPEAKER_04 50:01

China.

SPEAKER_02 50:01

China. China. So they got a skull. I saw something with like a Did you?

SPEAKER_04 50:14

I did, I promise.

SPEAKER_02 50:15

Do you believe you did?

SPEAKER_04 50:17

Yeah, I just need to like to prove my point now.

SPEAKER_02 50:20

And I'm open, like, I would rather, you know, I'm down to hear anything.

SPEAKER_04 50:24

I just they found it in your country as well. Of course.

SPEAKER_02 50:27

They've this is where the dreams come from.

SPEAKER_04 50:30

Newly discovered dinosaurs in the USA in 2026 and 2026 include a significant partial skeleton of a long-necked diplodocus.

SPEAKER_02 50:38

Let's show me the body. What do we got? Fucking one vertebrae and a toe? And they're like partial skeleton discovered. Diplodocus found.

SPEAKER_04 50:51

2026. Let's get it. Let's hear. Massive dinosaur fossils.

SPEAKER_02 51:00

Show me the body, show me the body.

SPEAKER_04 51:04

During construction of a partial lot of a natural monument in Utah. Okay, what do we got?

SPEAKER_02 51:12

A lot of text. That looks like an old picture. It's like a painting. There's a guy who's got a big thing. Why are these like this is what I'm fucking talking about, dude?

SPEAKER_04 51:27

No, I don't know. I saw a picture.

SPEAKER_02 51:29

It was two of them. Um maybe if you s because there's a there's like a park. But there is a place in like the middle of America where it's like a dumping ground for bones, maybe because of like flooding or feeding or whatever, but none of them are fucking. They're just like waving bones around. Some guy in the fucking dirt is like, yeah, this is definitely a fucking ass bone from a you know fucking homo uh homosophagus.

SPEAKER_04 52:02

Complete. I mean, I'm sure you went into this.

SPEAKER_02 52:05

I did. I mean, it's been I've been hearing about it for years. Um, but it's one of those things I never took time to really like care about until I was reading it to my child, just being like, wait a minute.

SPEAKER_04 52:16

Several remarkably complete dinosaur fossils have been have been discovered. Let's get it. Offering unprecedented insights into prehistoric life. Sue T-Rex, 90% complete. Let's get it, let's see. Sue. The T-Rex. Oh my god, I'm about to. Sue, that's Sue.

SPEAKER_02 52:36

That's great.

SPEAKER_04 52:40

We're currently in Wikipedia. Yep, the the all-I mean you read because it's your language. And you tell me if that's good information or not. Because I don't know, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 52:49

Sue, officially designated whatever the fuck that is, is one of the largest, most extensive, most best preserved Tranosaurus Rex fossils ever found. Over 90% recovered by bulk.

SPEAKER_04 53:01

Bulk is that like at the same time? It's like a pile of bones.

SPEAKER_02 53:05

That's how I interpret it. I don't know. Like it's not so it's not laid out like I'm running. I was shot and I'm fighting the car. I'm frozen in action. Yeah, like um, I'm assuming that means bulk, like it just fucking, it's a pile. Yeah, it's a pile of bones. Uh discovered August 12, 1990, American explorer and fossil collector Sue Hendrickson. Ooh, she got to name her own fucking dinosaur. And uh she found it and she auctioned it for$8.3 million, equivalent to$17 million today. At the same time, highest that was the highest price ever paid for a fossil again. Still among the highest prices ever paid for a dinosaur skeleton, Sioux is now a permanent feature of the Chicago Natural History Discovery.

SPEAKER_04 53:53

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_02 53:54

During the summer of 1990, by the way, I mean, dude, if if that's all it takes to prove it, they made a ton of money. Boom, fact.

SPEAKER_03 54:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:03

Uh during the summer of 1990, a group of workers in the Black Hills Institute, located at Hill City, Cheyenne River Indian Reservation, uh in South Dakota, named the city. Uh, it's too much dumb information. By the end of the summer, the group had discovered an Edmontosaurus bones and was ready to leave. So they found some shit and they were like, we got some stuff, let's bounce. Uh however, a flat tire, oh, here we go. A flat tire was discovered on their truck before the group could depart on August 12th. While the rest of the group went into town to repair the truck, Sue Hendrickson decided to explore the nearby cliffs that the group had not checked out. And she was walking along the base of a cliff and she discovered some small pieces of bone. She looked above her to see where the bones had originated and observed larger bones protruding from the wall of the cliff. She returned to the camp with two small pieces of bones and reported discovery to president of Black Hills Institute, Peter Larson, probably that's like your uncle. Hell yeah. Uh, determined that the bones were from a T-Rex by their distinctive contour and texture. That's still a reach to me to see two bones and be like T-Rex, but I'm no expert. Later, closer examination of the site showed many visible bones above the ground and some articulated vertebrae. The crew ordered extra plaster. This is what they do out in the dirt. Although some of the new crew had to depart, Hendrickson and a few other workers began to uncover the bones. The group was excited, and it was evident that much of the dinosaur had been preserved. Previously discovered T-Rex skeletons were usually missing over half of their bones. Um let's see. Later it was determined that was 90% complete by bulk and 73% complete by elements, which I guess is something I can't fully understand. Of the 360-known T-Rex bones, around 250 have been recovered. So they assume that there's 110 bones in their minds. What's missing? Like a big penis or something? Lar a 110-piece cock.

SPEAKER_04 56:08

Because 10% is missing on Sioux.

SPEAKER_02 56:11

Yes. No, in weight, but 73% of the elements are there. So they're already lowering the number. Okay, okay, okay. Um and the fossil. Okay. When the fossil was found, the hip bones were above the skull and the leg bones were inverted between intertwined with the ribs. The large size and excellent condition of bones were also surprising. The skull was 59, 55 inches long, and most teeth were still intact. After the group completed excavations, each block was covered in burlap and coated in plaster. Um let's see. Oh, dispute and auction. Soon after the fossil was found, dispute arose over legal ownership. So there's a little hustle going on here. This is like a big legal case.

SPEAKER_04 56:56

The taxmen needs their money.

SPEAKER_02 56:59

Well, there's like uh the reservation, the institute, all these people.

SPEAKER_04 57:03

Everyone owns that shit.

SPEAKER_02 57:06

Yeah. So preparation. Several of the fossil bones had never been discovered, so perpetrators produced models of the missing bones from plastic to complete the exhibit. Model bones were colored in purplish, huh? So the visitors could tell. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 57:22

I mean, is this uh taking us anywhere? No, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_02 57:27

I mean, I'm like, I'm just if you're like deciphering a Wikipedia in real time, it's not the fastest. No, no, no. But I mean, um maybe we should move on because this feels No, this is gonna be an hour three. We'll get to the box. Um, but yeah, so I don't know, it's tons of money. It just got me thinking. It got me thinking.

SPEAKER_04 57:47

I'm happy that you're thinking. Um something you don't do very often? Uh yeah, sure. I mean, uh but okay, so 10% is missing from Sue.

SPEAKER_02 58:02

Uh 27%.

SPEAKER_04 58:04

27% is might be wrong then. If, let's just say, if they puzzled that T-Rex back together correctly. Yeah. It could have been like opposite. What if like the tail is not a tail? Maybe it's like just a no I think that a really tall neck. Maybe the T-Rex is like twice as tall.

SPEAKER_02 58:24

What I what my my guess is is that in a lot of these dinosaur recovery places, it's just fucking bones. It's tons of bones. Like woolly mammoths, caveman, fucking everything. And then I think maybe they get a little, you know, what if I connect this one to this one?

SPEAKER_04 58:39

Yeah. Yeah, no, definitely.

SPEAKER_02 58:40

Boom.

SPEAKER_03 58:40

Now I get to name it, and then I get a fucking oh would you say that this looks good? Here comes the book deal.

SPEAKER_02 58:48

Like it's a little bit of a like Yeah, Steven.

SPEAKER_03 58:51

Yeah, we're almost done. Yeah. Yeah. For your movie. This is it, yeah. I think we got uh I think we got ambition right here of the the big one.

SPEAKER_02 59:02

I think, yeah, I don't know. I just think it's like you get crazy when you think you got something.

SPEAKER_04 59:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:09

True. But that was my journey in the last 72 hours, I guess. Wow. I thought you were working. Uh dude, I I fucking compartmentalize heavily. I censor myself all fucking day. And I smile and multitask. It's just it's got two brains.

SPEAKER_04 59:27

So while you're shooting, you're just thinking. I'm like, these motherfuckers fuckers. Another one, please.

SPEAKER_02 59:33

What else is fucking? Yeah, smile. Uh like don't forget to smile. Uh no, that's that's much of my life is is internalizing things, thinking, and then shaking hands and smiling and not ever discussing it with anybody.

SPEAKER_04 59:49

Perfect. Which is why we have episodes.

SPEAKER_02 59:52

Building anger. Not anger, just maybe building my case. Yeah. For when you were in court against the world. When I have to take down the entire fucking thing. They get me on a fucking parking ticket and I pull the pants down on the whole operation. It's like I got dirt. I got dirt on everybody. Yeah. Um, but I still enjoy these fucking movies. I mean, who doesn't like a fucking movie? Yeah. Although the new Jurassic Parks are weak as fuck.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:24

We always went through this. Yeah. But um maybe there will be uh another Dino episode. It's not impossible. It's a big part of our lives.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:35

Why can't there be a dragons?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:37

If there's dragons in every fucking in every culture, there's a fucking dragon. There's a bunch of dragons. You know what's fucking scary? You know what's scary about dragons? The fire. No, that the dragons, like the um the beast, the fire flying thingy. That's scary. It is it is depicted in all of the different may almost all of the different cultures.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:06

That's what I just said.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:08

Yeah, but why are those not taken seriously? But the scary thing is that there was no way for them to kind of communicate about the dragons when they uh depicted them. Yes. So they must have seen something back then.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:24

Now you're getting now you're coming towards me.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:27

No, I'm not. Yeah. This is this is more of a mystery. This is not about capitalism. This is about I think it's very valid. The Mayans and the Chinese and the Africans, they all have like their version of the dragon.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:41

And like Mesopotamia. Yeah, yeah. And they did not hang out back then. That's very big. And that's crazy. That's why I'm saying, why not why why is that taken less seriously when they're like parallelly growing?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:54

Because we haven't found dragon bones. Or did we?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:00

Did you see what happened right there? What if you've been staring at those things the whole fucking time? And it confirms the myth all over the earth. You see? You see what you just walked into right there? Oh, you got me. No, but I love I love that conversation because it is. It's like, why is everyone talking about fucking dragons and not dinosaurs? But we are talking about dragons.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:27

No, okay, but who's making who's making more money throughout the ages? Dragons or dinosaurs?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:34

I think dragons had a good run until uh they had to take the power away from any sort of like myth or spirituality or like ancient tradition and take it towards science.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:48

Post Jurassic Park. Here comes Game of Thrones. Yeah, you know how much money that Frances is making? They've done well. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:56

They've done well, but they don't own museums. And they don't have the books.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:59

They don't have they still have the books, they have the um there's dragons everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:04

They're not funding academia with dragons.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:07

No, you can't really work with dragons unless you're like a fantasy or like a cosplayer, I guess. Yeah, that's still not big dragons that's big money creating opportunities out there.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:17

Yeah, nobody talked about dinosaurs until like 1850, but dragons were there the whole fucking time in every culture, yeah. So, like, what are we doing?

SPEAKER_04 1:03:26

Maybe the the dragon people knew that, and they were like, we need like a newer version, a people's version, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:33

Like a dumber fucking idiot.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:36

Okay, so let's take away the fire. It needs to feel more authentic.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:39

They're kind of wobbly, they don't have arms, and they can't like they don't fly. Well, some fly, but then they're not as cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:46

Yeah, people are not into like invincible creatures anymore. Yeah, the immortal thing in the treasure, it's like highly flawed fucking idiot animals. Yeah, um we need to make them think that they have a chance, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:02

Make them more relatable, yeah. Cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:06

Well, now we know.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:08

Or do we?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:09

I don't know. Dragons versus dinosaurs. That's a good um I think the dragons we gotta go back and is there a movie about that?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:16

Uh about dragons?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:18

Dragons versus dinosaurs. Are they like kissing cusses?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:20

I mean, dude, dragons would have to get such revenge for getting slipped to the shoved to the side.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:27

All the dinosaurs on Earth versus one dragon.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:30

He would probably fucking destroy them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:32

Just shoot fire. Or just T-Rex is just standing there.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:36

Wow. All we could do is sort of run in circles and roar, and the dude's like, bro! No, you're gone. Like, just like line, it's like fucking a hundred men with swords versus a guy with a machine gun, just mowing, mowing the lawn. Yeah. No, if you look at it, dragons are fucking dope, dude. Dragons are the coolest. And then, like, yeah, dinosaurs are like low IQ fucking idiots. They're just like, oh, I fell off a cliff. Oh, it's a meteor. Yeah, it's too hot. I got no hands, I got short arms.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:10

Yeah, the dragon.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:12

I'm a bird now.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:13

Yeah, but the dragon is a bird.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:15

Dragon, uh, I maybe I it mean it flies. It definitely flies.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:21

Yeah. And if you're an animal and you fly, you are what?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:26

Uh a bird or a bug or a squirrel. Dude, I could do this whole fucking day.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:35

Or a fish, they're flying fish. Yeah, I can't do it. I can play this shit all fucking night. Okay. Um, I I gotta give it to you. You your case is strong.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:45

I will be able to argue relentlessly with no real direction for hours. You should we should put you in a debate. I would love nothing more to just go in circles with somebody until we give a pastor or something. Just let them give up. I'm more of an endurance debater.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:03

Yeah. Yeah. I think it's time to no no no, buddy. No, no, no. You've left. No, no, no, no, no. Don't skip over. We're not done here. Um, but yeah, there's that.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:16

That was my thoughts. That was my journey, dude. That's a whole episode. I'm always journeying. Um, and I'm glad you went to the museum and saw the fucking whale.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:25

Yeah. I went to a show the other day. A music show. A gig. Rock? Uh folk kind of I don't know what the music genres are now. It's all mixed. Garbage. Shitty. It was really good. It was good. Beautiful, beautiful band. Whatever. And I saw uh because it's like uh emotional music, one would say. Not emo, but it's beautiful music. The lyrics are deep, it's a bit sad. Okay. But it's like heartfelt music. And we were standing at the back of the venue, and I just saw this girl, like maybe 15 years old, sitting, sitting down the whole gig. She couldn't see anything, she didn't even try to see anything. It was very performative.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:20

I know that I've seen that girl at a lot of gigs.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:23

It was just like everyone passing asked her, like, are you okay? Like, are you drink? Do you drink too much? Or the whole thing was for people to see that she was not feeling. She's a character, she's a character. Yeah, it was just like a performative, emotional girl. And I remember how strong that felt, kind of. You're being like being a teen like that and just working so hard to show the world that you were feeling things.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:59

Do you remember that?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:00

Uh I guess so. I mean you definitely have moments where you're like acting out.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:04

Yeah, but it's it's just like I had because I had a vision of myself kind of, or I remembered myself in that age. Yeah. Doing exactly the same thing. Like, just like she did.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:19

I think that was, but is it uh generally tied to like a genre of music?

SPEAKER_04 1:08:24

Or it's just like I don't know, it's it's like um freak thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:32

Cause I would see it with certain genres of music.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:34

Yeah, I mean, of course it's based on if you're a punk, I mean, you don't see the like the brats doing that. No, they're not. It's definitely like uh a music thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:45

It's like my feelings.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:46

Uh but it's um I remember I went to this punk show, maybe I was 14 or something, and I borrowed my sister's shoes, like uh Chuck, Chuck Taylor's Converse, uh, which at the time was like the number one symbol that you were into, like pop music.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:07

Pop music.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:08

Yeah, pop or emo, like emotional because pop back then was kind of emo. Okay. It was in Sweden, like if you're a uh pop person, you have like a star right here, you have lots of makeup, you're like uh basically emo. It's different from a stage. Yeah, it's it's definitely um something to talk about for a longer time. But I borrowed her shoes, they were way too small. I'm dressed in all black, and I just go to the youth center or whatever where the gig is. Yeah. And I'm just sitting by a tree, you know, like cow-legged or something. Yeah, like very like awkward, and I'm just trying to show everyone, like I'm I'm a part of this. I'm so hurt. I'm I feel so many things, and you need to uh confirm that kind of by looking at me and like and all the kids were doing it, yeah. But I just remember very strongly that it felt so much when I was doing it, yeah. Because the whole world was you know confirming my emotions.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:10

Do you feel like you sort of like played a character of it and then you started to feel more of it as you came to the stuff?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:18

I was um finding myself, I guess. Uh you're trying things out. I was trying things out, yes. But I was a bit jealous when I saw her. I was like, damn, she's really in the zone right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:31

She's perfecting.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:32

She paid like 60 bucks to go to a gig and she's just sitting at the floor. Like that's dedication.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:38

Yeah, I guess. I mean, she's selling it hard.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:41

Yeah, but I mean she she wouldn't do that, I think, if she didn't think that that's her.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:48

You know what I mean? Like, I would rather, as an emo, go to a gig and see what's happening. But she's like, she's so in her character that she's just sitting at the floor for two hours.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:59

And is that something you're saying, like, that's cool, or no, I'm just saying it's it's a powerful state of mind.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:06

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:07

Like, I think that's true.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:09

I don't think it's something I really like. She's like a kid, she's playing. Yeah, she her fantasy or of herself or whatever. Like, she's yeah, yeah, she's really in her like zone.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:21

And um, it's just a thought. It's so and I was gonna ask you about like because you're slightly older than me. So, and I don't know what like what kind of you know how you acted out in the 80s kind of well when the 80s I was six or whatever, you know, like the 80s was my zero to two.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:43

Okay, so in the nineties. In the nineties, I didn't I personally didn't really listen to music where it was like you're in your feelings a lot. It's like I was listening to like heavier in all genres, just heavier, like stripped down, dumber kind of in ways stuff. I did see it, and I did, I was like confused by it. I didn't take part in any sort of like emo sort of like went around me.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:10

But what's the American version of this?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:12

Emo was big, it just sort of happened like I wasn't I wasn't into it because I kind of I think it was something about like uh the the whiny nature of like the vocals where it's like and some some of it I can listen to now, but let's forget about the music for a second.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:28

Let's let's just like you're in a small town, yeah, and you see a 15-year-old yeah not feeling too good. How can you see that? Or how how does how would they play out, right? Yeah, how does that kid, you know, how is he or she trying to show that?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:45

There was we we still had like uh in my town, we had this place called Dirty Park, which was just like it was it might be called Queen Anne's Square. It was just a big park in front of this like old church where it was the dead center. You could go find people, just like a skate job, you go find people and yeah, oh, hang out with these guys. And there were those kids that were just sitting there like, dude, fucking life is a prison, you know, sitting there like smoking cigarette butts they found on the ground and just but like so right up front, so anyone walking by would be like, dude, look at the freaks, oh my god, or whatever, like, or they're so tortured. Yeah. Um I think I that was the extent of it. You get the kids that just like they walk around like their faces falling off their skull, yeah. And they're just like, dude, nothing is evil, like nothing's worth it. Every life is a prison. I wish I was never born. I'm in so much pain, and I think 80% of that is just making shit up in your head. Yeah, of course. Um, but we didn't emo didn't blow through where I was, it was more of like on TV.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:44

Um, otherwise, you just saw kids like acting out, like getting in fights or partying, or I I don't know. Where I grew up, it wasn't like emo couldn't hit. It was that sort of like hard-headed Boston Irish, like you just fucking headbutt somebody. I not that I was a brawler, but like people weren't in touch with their feet. It wasn't cool to be in touch to the point that you're like having a one-man protest at a public gathering where you're just being morbid or whatever. It was more just like, dude, what the fuck? Like, get up, like hang out, or it just sort of like wasn't in that region. And then later on I saw it become huge. Um, but you weren't really congratulated for being in your feelings that much.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:27

No. Um, I mean, I guess you still aren't. Maybe I don't think that they're like because I see these kids all the time. If you go uptown, you see the emos. I don't know. Now it's I don't think that's my point, but it's just like she was still like a rare character at that show. Yeah, she was still special, and people were like, Oh my god, they didn't like they couldn't see her trick. Yeah, because they haven't seen there's not a hundred of those, but I understood it because I did exactly the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:01

Yeah, maybe maybe the versions I saw were just like a kid with a mohawk and a fucking punk shirt, just sort of like, I'm different. Look at me, but don't look at me, kind of vibes where like I need you to react.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:12

Yeah, but it's it's she's researching. Yeah, I don't if she was feeling bad, she would do something else, like she would not pay to go to a concert. She would definitely like it.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:23

She gets validated by people asking if she's alright. I mean, and you did see that in the smart little little uh little character. Cunning, cunning, yeah, manipulating people without them even realizing making them be part of you know, I'll pretend too, I guess. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:41

Um my god, are you okay? She's like, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:44

Yeah. I'm fine, leave me alone.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:46

Yeah, I'm like, I'm just sitting here.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:48

Bitch.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:50

Get out of here, bitch. Well, yeah, respect, respect to her. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:54

I know, I know what she was doing. It's uh it is a funny. There's like, yeah, it did those characters are funny, and they were around. I think they're like a leftover, like the dregs of punk sort of flipped into emo, and then everyone was just like anti you had the antisocial characters who'd show up at a very social event and just be like, like fucking, you know, this is everything's horrible. Yeah. Uh do you have a cigarette?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:19

Yeah. There are still some people like that around.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:23

It's impressive because it's like a throw, it's like a throwback. Yeah, it's like she's she's she's bringing back bell bottoms with that shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:29

Yeah, that was cool to see. Um yeah, we need to dig deeper into the 90s in your hometown, that's for sure. But yeah, in another episode that'll be fun. Guys, we have a website. Um maximum impact.show. Oh, yeah. If you go in there, you will find several products that are kind of um references. References, yes, to things that we talked about. Yeah. Um, these are mostly cultural phenomena or discoveries, or little gags or little uh they're fun. They're fun, fun things that um if you're a fan, and which you hopefully are, uh you can buy them and still support us. They're pretty cool. I like the designs. Um they're great.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:31

And the point is you need us to be able to eat food. Yeah, and then we can do this. So um we've gotta pay Pear for his undying production um skills. I would like a little something off the top as well, and you get to have cool shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:47

Yeah. Um got a couple of cool mugs in there now. I mean, the Anonymous mug.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:52

Fuck hot item.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:54

Just looks like any doesn't look like any mug. Imagine that at work. Yeah. Everyone's gonna want to be your friend. Everyone's gonna be like, oh my god, I love your mug.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:03

Where did I get that?

SPEAKER_03 1:18:04

Where did you get that room?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:06

Yeah, oh my god. Like that'll be the response. Can I get your man? And then and then you get the we got a cheddarbob. Cheddarbob chatter.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:17

Come on.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:18

He's got a mug too. Who wouldn't want that? There's a mug for him, too. There is a cheddarbob mug. And that's when you walk around the the workplace with the cheddarbob mug, you find out who the real soldiers are. Yeah. Who's got your back when the shit goes down? Exactly. But he's we got a champion hoodie with him.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:36

Wow, I'm going off of memory.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:38

The thing is that this is it's worldwide, baby. If you're in the States, you can get this shit as well. It's not only in Sweden. We will deliver.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:47

Anywhere on the earth, basically, right? Yeah. Is is where it can be shipped without any extra crazy costs. This is true. Normal purchases. Affordable things.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:57

And uh, I mean, we will keep updating that uh shop. Like after uh after every episode, I think there will be some kind of product. Um, there'll be a little drift. So I mean, we're definitely gonna do a dragons versus dinosaurs for this one.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:13

Um maybe like a reveal like what really is a dinosaur, like pulling the mask off and it's like dog, it's a dragon under there, and it's a guy with shades and a briefcase of money. Yeah. No, we got ideas, we're always coming up with shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:30

And another thing is that if you go into the link in our Instagram bio, you will find um different platforms where to watch and uh listen to the show. Yeah. Uh Apple Podcasts, YouTube, and also Spotify. Spotify keeps fighting us.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:48

Dude, they fucking hate us.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:49

They uh so if if an episode is missing on Spotify, you just go into YouTube, watch that shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:55

I love YouTube.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:56

Um you can also become a supporter of the show. Yes, dude. Starts at three bucks a month. Guys and girls. That's nothing. Reach into those pockets, yeah. Um, so go in there, do your thing, and we will keep doing our thing. That's it. It's cheap, and we'll get better and better with better technology. Um, I think that's it. That's enough of begging. Yeah, just selling. I mean it's not begging, it's selling, we're making shit. We do stuff, just putting the information out there. They fucking need us. Yeah. But um, so um take a look. And please send us questions. Um yeah, questions are fun, and comments. Comments are fun too. We uh want to incorporate.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:44

I would love to debate you.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:46

Yeah. We could do we could special extended episodes until the power goes up. A debate when there's only one question and you get a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:56

I will make it live for eight hours. Trust me, I can maximize anything into the longest discussion ever. You can. Uh, but that was fun. Thank you, Pear, for uh entertaining my curiosities. Thank you, Christopher. I'm glad I could help. And uh I'm glad you saw the whale, which I would love to see in person. Yeah, we need to do a West Coast trip. Um, West Coast gangster trip. And um, if you see a little emo kid at a show, walk up, kick him in the back of the head.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:26

Yeah, or just approve them.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:29

I mean, you can stand there and clap and be like, great job, sister.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:32

Yeah, like sit next to them and see if they will, you know, react to it. I'm sure they will not like that the attention is now divided into they don't want to share. No. But um, see you next week. Later. Ciao.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:50

I was sitting on a fucking thing.