4. Celebrity smoke sessions, creepy letters, cloning, running clubs, fat monkeys

The guys get a new studio. Chris smokes weed with Rhianna and Slayer and drops so many names he needs Per's help to pick 'em all up. The Swedish government wants Per to snitch.  The guys contemplate whether or not Per should go deep cover.  

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Oh should I go headband? I'll go headband.

SPEAKER_05 0:03

Go headband, please. Let's think about what the intro is gonna look like. We know what it sounds like.

SPEAKER_01 0:16

I don't know how much we can.

SPEAKER_00 0:20

What do I what do I got? Am I good here? I mean I would I would raise it slightly. Oh yeah. How did I have it last time?

SPEAKER_01 0:31

Anytime I don't worry about it, it's it's all perfect.

SPEAKER_05 0:37

Good life advice.

SPEAKER_01 0:42

I don't know what we're capable of. Graphic-wise? Yeah. Anything.

SPEAKER_04 0:49

Dream big.

SPEAKER_01 0:50

Like AI slop or like I like the South Park.

SPEAKER_05 0:57

Like. Yeah, maybe we should do something with that.

SPEAKER_01 1:00

What you did with the other thing the other day was ridiculous. But then I guess that's like that's already sort of the show, kind of.

SPEAKER_05 1:09

Um that's because we weren't on film.

SPEAKER_01 1:13

Yeah, that was pretty amazing.

SPEAKER_05 1:15

Then I had to improvise. Ah, well, we'll figure it out. Yeah, let's let's um but I'm thinking I told you the other the other day I wanted to do something like Viva La Bamish. You know when animation kind of became easy? Um TV days. It w there it wasn't like stop motion, all of a sudden there was like flash things and motion tweens and just when graphics became easy to make. Yeah, I mean I probably watched like zero episodes of Evil of Bam, but I'm willing to but you remember MTV, like in between uh shows kind of stop motion.

SPEAKER_01 2:03

Oh, all the the station like the station uh identification commercial?

SPEAKER_05 2:08

Yeah, where they kind of is that what they're called?

SPEAKER_01 2:11

Yeah, it's like you're watching MTV and it's just like that MTV thing.

SPEAKER_05 2:15

Yeah. Something like that will air or will be shown very soon. That's great. When we are doing the cut.

SPEAKER_01 2:23

That's exciting.

SPEAKER_05 2:25

Yeah. I've never seen you this colorful, by the way. You got your necklace and the headband. Yeah, I didn't.

SPEAKER_01 2:32

My son made my necklace, and now I'm uh I feel like sort of like a burning man shaman. Yeah. Uh, but it's the coolest thing I have, so it's gonna get worn. Um yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 2:47

We can play with it. We'll see what happens. Yeah. Let's do that now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 3:08

Welcome back, everybody. Yes, welcome back. If you're lucky, you can also see us now.

SPEAKER_01 3:14

And that's it it's a very lucky situation.

SPEAKER_05 3:17

Something that we barely get to do. Um you look in the mirror a lot.

SPEAKER_01 3:22

Yeah, I feel like a normal amount. I don't want to look like a total piece of shit. You got a pose.

SPEAKER_04 3:31

You got like a that was my pose.

SPEAKER_05 3:35

Just breathing out slowly.

SPEAKER_01 3:39

And then I step to the side out of sight of the mirror.

SPEAKER_05 3:44

Just like here we go again. I noticed um one of those poses the other day. I'm not gonna name names, but um one of us the younger skaters that we know. He's got a very particular um pose when he you know tries something on, or you know, like you try a t-shirt and then you like stand in front of the mirror. Yeah, you do like a certain pose.

SPEAKER_01 4:13

I mean the I don't kind of I guess it's just like your strong look, like your go-to how you wish it's very particular this one. No, but is it like how you wish everyone would always be seeing you?

SPEAKER_05 4:24

I think it's like yeah, I guess so. Maybe maybe that's how it is.

SPEAKER_01 4:28

It's like your best presentation.

SPEAKER_05 4:30

Yeah. What is it?

SPEAKER_01 4:31

Is it like a kissy face thing?

SPEAKER_05 4:33

No, it's it's just like you know, they're into like nerdy stuff, this generation. Yeah. I don't know, maybe it's like an anime character or something, but it's just it just looks it's good, it's it's cute, but it's just why are you doing this? This is not uh representation of yourself. Very strange. I'll show you later. But I can't say it. It would be too much. Is it like powdy? He would cry. No, it's more like uh monstrous the girl. Kind of turns himself into a ghoul or something. What the f but I've seen it a lot of times now, and like the other day I was like, okay, so that's the pose. Ah.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

That's his like yeah. Yeah, I'm sure back in the day I did like my pose of just like black metal. Oh. Every day just like angry face. How's this gonna play in like eight hours? Like, is how's this move gonna look when I hear a song at a bar?

SPEAKER_05 5:39

Oh yeah. Um But when you lived with someone, I remember I had um I I lived with my friend for a lot of years here. And we always made fun of each other because sometimes you see each other in the hall hallway or in the you know what what's the first room called before you exit the living room the the house?

SPEAKER_01 6:00

The front hall, I don't know, the atrium or something. I don't think we I mean it depends on the house.

SPEAKER_05 6:05

Anyways, before you kind of leave the house, you always take like a one last look or something. Yeah. Uh and we used to just laugh at each other when you kind of noticed without them noticing you noticing them. Ah, it's like catching your friend jerking off. Yeah, kind of, but with it just like to yourself, basically. That is like a weird thing. And it was funny. I I remember I he told me I did something like with my teeth or something, like a like a suck suction thingy, like a fake model face. And he was doing something, what the fuck would you do like uh same thing? No, but like um kind of it was more cowboy y. It was like uh that's sort of like to like get in the headset, headspace of all just like you know, to kind of convince yourself that okay, I'm ready now. Well, I guess it's not bad. It's just funny, like which I bet Tino had a face like that.

SPEAKER_01 7:04

Tino didn't have that, he had what you would call like a gear crisis. Oh where you would attempt to live, you attempt to leave. This is my good friend Tino Razzo of 25 years, but uh I lived with him for eight years, I think. But yeah, you'd have a plan, like we gotta leave at seven. We gotta leave at eight o'clock. We're leave at eight o'clock, we'll go out. Yeah. Around 9 15, he's like sitting in his underwear on the floor of his room with all of his clothes everywhere. And uh he's like, I'm having a gear crisis. This was like kind of a nuclear bomb went off in his head because he was such like uh at the time like a style icon. So people would come to the bar where he worked and just like photograph him and then run back to like their magazines and trend hunting on him, kind of. So maybe he felt a little pressure, plus he was just into it, but yeah, it would take he would have like a gear crisis and it would take an hour and a half to get out of the house. So you have to play you have to factor in that final moment goes 90 minutes. It's not just a couple little teeth sucks or whatever the fuck you guys are doing. This was like preparing for like air travel.

SPEAKER_04 8:19

Were you like um you know helping?

SPEAKER_05 8:23

You're like, yeah, that's nice. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:25

No, no, that looks so good, man. No, he would just come up and be like, check it. Like, what do you think of this? And you're like, that's cool. I don't know. Like and then it but then it would start to catch on, and then I would start doing it. Oh because I never I showed up before I moved in with him, I didn't really like care that much about my presentation, and then it became a thing. But it's also part of like moving to New York City and noticing everybody's like dressing cool, and you're dressed in like your carpenter's clothes or whatever.

SPEAKER_05 8:54

Yeah, that's like moving to Stockholm as well from any other small, smaller Swedish town. You're like, oh shit. I guess I have to like learn. Yeah, you can't dress like a farmer. No. No. HM is not working here, apparently. Well, that's weird.

SPEAKER_01 9:12

Yeah, I mean but in Stockholm has a look. Yeah, yeah, for sure. There's a there's a very like noticeable look to the way the guys dress, especially.

SPEAKER_05 9:24

It's been it's it's been uh up and down, I think, the Stockholm look. Good or bad. Yeah, a few years ago there was like uh there was a lot of talk about it. Like, here's the scandal look. Oh my god, everyone's so beautiful in Scandinavia. Here's what they're wearing.

SPEAKER_01 9:43

But what would they wear?

SPEAKER_04 9:46

Black. Yeah. Kind of black and like very puffed out pants. Expensive denim, and then like good shoes, I guess.

unknown 9:57

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

Yeah, you guys I noticed when I got here it was like shoes, the shoes were very like expensive or expensive looking, and there was like this very almost like high-end raver pant that everyone was wearing.

SPEAKER_05 10:10

Acne or something.

SPEAKER_01 10:11

And then like a bomber jacket.

SPEAKER_05 10:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:16

And uh not for me. Not for you, no, not not no raver pants. Not for me. No, no, couldn't can't get with it.

SPEAKER_05 10:25

I bet there's no pants like that for your legs, anyways.

SPEAKER_01 10:28

That would look so stupid. But it's funny when you see a big guy big and tall.

SPEAKER_05 10:32

Sometimes you do, like sometimes the big guys dress big.

SPEAKER_01 10:37

Crazy fashion, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 10:39

Just too much.

SPEAKER_01 10:41

No, it's too much, it's too much materials. Yeah. Um, what's been going on, dude? You're not sick, I'm not sick.

SPEAKER_05 10:53

I am a bit sick still.

SPEAKER_01 10:54

Fuck. Yeah. I decided today I'm done with it. I went to the gym, got a little baby pump. Ew. A little cardio. See, your brain is fucked because you just go in the wrong direction.

SPEAKER_04 11:06

Um, I'm just reading too much of uh about the lists.

SPEAKER_01 11:09

Yeah, no, I got uh I got uh I got into the gym and I remembered that everyone, every girl in the gym dresses like they're on a stripper pole. Forgot about that. Um but I got into What do you mean? Like light because I have been in the gym. It's fucking insane, dude. It's like butt bra G string things where like the butt cheeks are kind of separate. Everything it's just sort of like over the top. Like chicks, chicks that are probably in your in my mind are gonna complain about anybody looking at them dressing like the most attention-grabbing possible outfits. So that's funny. But no, it was good to not feel like a corpse. So I went to the gym and sweated a little. Yeah. I feel mentally better.

SPEAKER_04 11:56

Maybe that's how the girls feel as well. That I they're better glad I can't I showed back up. No, I bet they're terrified.

SPEAKER_05 12:05

But I mean, um maybe it's uh it's a way of like hyping yourself up, I guess. I mean, if there were if I had to go to the gym, maybe I would kind of want to wear something hot as well. What do you wear at the gym? Just t-shirt and shorts. Camo, camo uh shorts?

SPEAKER_01 12:25

I just wear a shirt and t-shirt and shorts. Just like normal. I don't wear like fully I don't know. It's just like when you see this on the outfits, you're like, dude, are we serious with this shit? They are.

SPEAKER_05 12:38

I know, it's it's fucking strange. But isn't that the way maybe I'm just assuming? It might be like the the better you look, the better you perform, kind of. I don't know. You know, it's like you want to write a play, you get like an old school typewriter, and you know, to get like the pool. I mean, this is just like to get inspired, kind of.

SPEAKER_01 12:59

I don't know. It's just dressing like you I'll have to take you sometime. Yeah, get it. Do you have a plus one? I do. Like every time? Not every time, but I have like enough, like I've been there long enough where they're like, you can like bring a friend a couple times or something. I saw something. But yeah, it's it's uh we should we should do a gym episode. I would imagine you could feel really good and not dress like you're a lady of the night. You know what I mean? Like you could just dress like you're going to the gym and like you look good or whatever. But this is like the most beautiful lady of the night, especially coming out of like you know, like men are toxic, and it's like, what are you guys doing? It's like that joke from like uh who said it? It's like dangling salmon in front of a bear. It's like, well, don't why are you even dressing crazy like this if that's your concern? Anyways, it's funny. I start I laugh at it because I'm it's like they want up each other. Um, but no, so I feel better. I'm sorry, you still feel like shit. I feel like half a shit. Half is half a half.

SPEAKER_05 14:14

I feel like a fart. Uh what happened? I made um bread again.

unknown 14:22

Wow.

SPEAKER_05 14:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:23

A little baker.

SPEAKER_05 14:25

Baker boy. But um I woke up and I was super ambitious because I saw this recipe on like an oatmeal package and I was like, yeah, I'm gonna make this tomorrow morning. I'm gonna have like a cozy little breakfast with like bread and butter. But the yeast. Such the yeast, my friend. What's up with this? Uh we're talking like three hours. Of of rising bread. Like, okay, do the thing. Let it rise for an hour. Then do something small with it and let it rise for another hour. Then make the buns and let it rise for another hour. We're talking like four hours to make a sandwich.

SPEAKER_01 15:08

Yeah, that's tough. I don't know. Baking's never quite pulled me in.

SPEAKER_05 15:12

I mean, it looks so good and it smells so good. Did it work? It worked finally, yeah, after four hours. I did it. But so now I have bread. I'll give you some. That's great. Um what else happened? Yeah, I got called. I got the calling. I ne this never happened to me. This is what this is what uh the paper is. Should I read it to you?

SPEAKER_01 15:39

If you can translate it, that'd be a bit more productive.

SPEAKER_05 15:41

I will. Okay, so basically, how are you feeling in your environment? How safe are you feeling in your like area? You've been randomly picked to participate in Stockholm City's safety meeting, kind of. And it's done every third year. It's about like crime experiences and you are worried to be close to crime or something, I don't know. Do you are you afraid of I have no, I have to uh do it. Oh, so it's like it's like a man city counts. No, it's not it's like a jury thing. You know, when you can randomly uh picked as a jury.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

Yeah, but this seems not too bad because you get to like register complaints if you have any. Sure. The thing is I don't have any.

SPEAKER_05 16:36

So I'm just gonna Well, if you have to go, you should probably just go. Oh no, I don't have to go, actually. It's on the it's online. But it uh it's funny that there are like these secret tasks being handed out to uh the citizens.

SPEAKER_01 16:53

Is it like uh it's like it's not like a rat hotline?

SPEAKER_05 16:57

You can like frame your neighbor for shit. I don't know. I mean I could. Maybe I should like lurk around the neighborhood. Why don't you see if I can find some crime here?

SPEAKER_04 17:07

Get out there with a notepad and a little like a magnifying glass.

SPEAKER_05 17:12

I mean, if I really wanted to make a difference, I guess I got to you know, I maybe I have to become a lady of the night.

SPEAKER_01 17:18

Dude, go deep cover, deep cover.

SPEAKER_05 17:22

Start selling your ass around the neighborhood just to get the dress really slutty and walk around and see if anyone bothers me. I think that would be great. And then you use that to like change things.

SPEAKER_01 17:33

Listen, I've been whoring myself for the last two months in this fucking neighborhood, and here's what I've found. Ever since I got your letter, I understood the command.

SPEAKER_05 17:45

And that's about it. I have nothing else to say to you.

SPEAKER_01 17:50

Wow. Well, I think you should have fun with this. I think you should take it, do like citizen crime wave journalism. Yeah. Um, maybe just pad the numbers a little bit, inflate the statistics, and then see what happens. This is a ro a ro a rogo group.

SPEAKER_05 18:09

Because it it looks shady. It's like it's got the logo up there, a Stockholm logo, but it's still like how's the barcode work? I don't know. I would I wouldn't want to like try it. I didn't want to try it.

SPEAKER_01 18:22

It just goes straight into your the bank account of your entire family.

SPEAKER_05 18:28

Thank you. We have now emptied all your accounts.

SPEAKER_01 18:31

You now have eight. Yeah, that's a that's a weird one. Yeah, I get things like this all day, and I think they're all scary. Every fucking envelope that shows up in my my mailbox is just I'm just like, not today. Oh fuck. And it's like, you have another here's you owe 15 more dollars to something, or you forgot to learn Swedish in time to open your last mail and understand it. Yeah. So I have like a fear of the mailbox. Not that the mailbox will get me, but there's just it's like the messenger extra. It's too much um real shit. Yeah, it's like nothing. Used to get excited to go to the mailbox, like, damn, I might get a paycheck, I might get like a cool package, and now nobody sends me packages or paychecks.

SPEAKER_05 19:21

It's just like all the packages go to like some fucking kiosks cigarette store. Um I get the only thing I get is like okay occasionally stuff like this. Yeah. Serious shit.

SPEAKER_01 19:32

Where it's like if you don't answer, you go to jail. Yeah. Or you j we fine you.

SPEAKER_05 19:37

Or I get from the the real estate agencies. They're trying to sell you. Like, hi, I just sold an apartment in your neighborhood, and it's like a slick slick guy. Get out of here. They're trying to impress me. Yeah. I don't care. I don't care that you sold it. So they're calling me every third day, like, what's up, buddy?

SPEAKER_03 19:55

I sell houses. Do you want to sell yours?

SPEAKER_01 19:58

It's like, yo, brother, get your dough.

SPEAKER_05 20:00

No, I do not want to do that. And this is like the fifth time you're asking me this.

SPEAKER_01 20:05

Well, put that down on the paper.

SPEAKER_05 20:07

Yeah, maybe I should.

SPEAKER_01 20:08

You're being stalked by like asshole real estate agents. Maybe I should. And uh they need to fuck off. Well, I've been watching the news, and I have three different topics for you to pick from. If you'd like me to talk into the microphone as I do. Um, cool. Firstly, we've got possibly a fake Jim Carrey. Okay. Secondly. Do I only get to pick one? Well, we could do all three. Yeah. Secondly, we've got uh another war popping off, which I've been monitoring 24 hours a day in my box or shorts for two days. And then I thought about the time where I got high with Rihanna and almost died.

SPEAKER_04 20:58

And I feel like there's like we could do like a could you like turn them all into one big story?

SPEAKER_01 21:05

I mean, I feel like I don't know how to weave that together, so it's sort of like uh like um you could choose, but I do feel like ones I mean uh silly I'm here for all of it.

SPEAKER_05 21:20

I just feel like if yeah, I don't know. The war is I'm bored of wars. It's it's just like it's a mainstream thing now. It is, it's it it's so popular to war.

SPEAKER_01 21:37

It is, it's a very popular thing.

SPEAKER_05 21:39

Sorry for laughing, but it is too much. TMI baby. Let's go with uh getting high with Rihanna, and then we can Then we can venture into Then we venture into fake Jim Carrey. The Truman show. I'm really uh looking forward to this one. Well, this will be Come on, root boy boy.

SPEAKER_01 21:57

Because it's sort of like it's kind of a Relatable situation partially, but it was it was like 2009 or 10 or something. I was dating this girl who was um very nice girl. She was a a backup singer for Rihanna. Um but they were like on a heavy tour schedule when we were together. Because she was like at that point, she was fucking huge. Like there was no Taylor Swift yet, you know.

SPEAKER_05 22:26

Oh she was the oh nine or ten. But I mean, uh what kind of songs were uh was it?

SPEAKER_01 22:32

I remember that one was like only girl in the world, it was after Umbrella. She it was she wasn't brand new, but she was still five years in or something, but huge, you know, fucking just only arenas. Um and so it was always like you know, we would occasionally get to go to like go to the shows and just see the monstrosity of like what kind of machine that was, which is pretty interesting. Um but it was like a very very well protected, like uh well thought out, you know, wheels of grease, everything's like perfectly happening. There's no room because it's like you know, if something goes wrong, it's like an economy that can't work. So everything was very dialed in, and like I think I met her, I met Rihanna's like the manager for the the whole stage act, and like he was very uh much like trying to make sure I couldn't fuck up. Like I knew I couldn't fuck up around these people, and I was sort of in a phase of like heavy fuck up phase, you know. Um but anyways, so uh one time I went out to LA and to meet uh the girl I was dating because they had like a two-week break on this world tour, and so I went and met them there and she was like, Oh, it's so-and-so's like the dancer's birthday, and we're gonna have a party for him at this restaurant. Uh, they're gonna close the whole restaurant um and just you know, hang out um famous style. And I was like, that sounds great. So we went and uh there was a little bit of a buildup because like Rihanna was really interested in meeting me because I was like her right-hand girl's new boyfriend, so she was sort of like always pestering my ex about that. Like, what's he up to? What's he doing? Blah blah blah blah. And I was like, damn, Rihanna was like, gives a shit, you know, she cares. Uh but whatever. So I was like, oh, this will be funny. So I go, I get to the party with my ex, and the first thing that happens is like Rihanna comes like stomping her feet like right up to me, like, so you're the motherfucker that's blah blah blah blah. But like in the funniest fucking way, you know, like, oh, this bitch is full of like piss and vinegar, like she's a total character. Like she she gave me like she just like was like snapping her finger in my face and saying like hilariously like alpha shit, like you know, nose to nose. And I was like, all right, this'll be fun, you know.

SPEAKER_04 24:56

Like, so I say what's up, and then I go off and we have some food and drinks, and then like an hour later, after you know, the it's like an open bar and it's closed to the public, so things are you know, like what is it then that like the closest family, the little crew, the crew it's the it's the crew on the guard.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

It's like a dance troupe, uh backup singers, not every stage hand, but like manager, you know, anyone that makes the show go who's on the tour bus on the airplanes, yeah. Um but then my ex is like, oh, do you want to smoke weed? And I was like, Yeah, I'll smoke weed. So we go out to the like the outdoor section, and like Rihanna's just like passing around blunt. She's like, Oh, have a seat. And uh we end up like quickly, I was like, Oh my god, this weed is like nuclear, you know, like Highland weed, just yeah, it's like people with all the money that get the best weed and they're just smoking it so much it like barely works, I guess. But like I hadn't smoked this. I was in good weed smoking shape, but this was I knew within about a minute, I was like, oh man, I'm fucking high. But then I'm also like, oh yeah, I'll have like sure, like grab me a beer, cool, can be a pussy, you need to like just chopping it up over here, and uh within like I was like five or ten minutes, it's okay, but I'm like, wow, I'm really high. And it's one of those things where you feel like nobody else is getting high, but they're all smoking, and you're just like starting to like enter your own world. Maybe everyone is thinking the same thing. This could be, um but I feel like they're at this level, they're like they're they're fine, and I'm like a rookie. So the next thing I really remember, and this was okay, like two years after the Chris Brown thing. Oh, yeah, that's where he like beat the shit out of her, and it was fucking horrible or whatever. So that's still kind of like in the pop culture's brain. And I start to like space out and like slightly panic, just like, oh, I don't need this shit. I'm fucking like way too high to deal. And I'm like drinking more beer because I'm like so thirsty. And then she starts. The next thing I realize when I like key back into the conversation, she's talking about like men beating women. I'm like, I'm kind of like, yeah, like there's like four of us, and I'm not trying to bail on the conversation because she's like baring her soul. But I also realize I can't speak, I can barely understand, and I'm like, there's like air raid sirens and like children laughing in my brain. It's just like chaos inside my head, you know, like, and I'm like nodding, yeah, man. Occasionally taking a hit, you know, like just to sort of look like I'm alive. And you're listening to like it was it was just like Were you sitting down? Is it like a little it was sort of like this? It was a little cove to the side where they would have like outdoor seating, but it was all locked off. So it was like off to the side, and you know, everyone's within. If there were two more people at the table, it'd be like this, you know. And like um, my ex at the time kept coming in and leaving, like she was there with her friends. So, and I was a little bit like, oh my god, it's fucking Rihanna. I should like sit here and listen to what this chick has to say because it's like not an everyday occurrence. Yeah, but soon it was like I couldn't stand up. Uh, and she was giving she was on giving like a speech, you know, like yeah, and uh there's no way to make a quick joke and like get the fuck out of there. Can you remember anything from the speech? Like uh it was more like no, because I was like losing my mind, but it was more like you know, what you would think someone who's experienced some crazy shit speaking about it as a whole, you know, no one has anything to say other than yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And like you're you know, there's a three-person audience. Um and then I think I just fucking shot out of my chair, like knees hit the table, drinks clicked, and I was like, I gotta go. I just fucking ran to the bathroom, probably like shoulder checking people, like through the restaurant and just fucking vomited, like like projectile vomit all over the bathroom. I was in the bathroom for like a half hour and throwing water on my face and like talking to the talking to the mirror, you know, like trying to breathe. And eventually I came out and like the party was nearly over, and I was like, hey, I'm back. My girlfriend's like, where the fuck have you been, man? We were looking for you, and I was just like, Yeah, that weed, that weed got a hold of me, but I'm okay now. And she's like, Oh, okay, because we're all gonna leave now because it's basically over.

SPEAKER_05 29:33

Um extra funny to hear this story whilst you were wearing a rastafari.

SPEAKER_01 29:39

Yeah, I mean, I was getting it's my in my character. No, but it was just sort of like a the fucking thing where you're like, yeah, this weed's a good idea right now. Yeah. And then you're just absolutely in your trench in the trenches.

SPEAKER_05 29:51

It never is. Never is a good idea.

SPEAKER_01 29:53

Sometimes it is, but mostly it's probably not. Yeah, no, for me, buddy. And not at the wrong time, like high pressure moments. Celebrity smokeouts.

SPEAKER_00 30:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:05

Any anyone else? Yeah. Who else? I got high with Tom Rare Ariah from Slayer. Oh, hell yeah. That was at Bam's house. Oh. Yeah. We had uh he did this Which one in Westchester?

SPEAKER_05 30:20

Castle Bam.

SPEAKER_01 30:21

Yeah, he did this thing where uh like MTV was maybe starting that show where it's like a solo show or something where they were like, we'll throw whatever fucking party you want to do, like there's no rules. And he was like, Cool, get Slayer to play at my house, and I'm inviting everybody. I remember that. Yeah, I remember that. There was an episode. Yeah, I mean there were cameras everywhere, but what he did, what Bam did was like basically call all the skaters he knew that he was friends with, and then he was like, Bring whoever the fuck you want. So there was like mobs coming from up and down the East Coast, and um my buddy is Donnie Barley, who was a former teammate of him, and he was like, Hey, I'm going to BAM's, I could pick you up. Yeah, we're gonna see Slayer. So we went.

SPEAKER_00 31:06

Slayer's here right now.

SPEAKER_01 31:16

Yeah, we were just like wandering around Bam's house, and uh he was kind of in and out, but he was doing stuff with the TV show, so I didn't really talk to him, but there was a little and I'm talking about this because like I never watched the fucking TV show really, but he had like the Hobbit Hole, which was like a little drug shed, not for drugs, but it was like a workshed that kind of was like where people snuck away to smoke a joint or whatever. And uh Donnie was like, I got some weed, let's go roll a joint. I was like, that sounds great. Slayer's playing in like three hours, and um, and I'm tripping on the professional skaters that are there because I was probably only 22, 23, and there's people that I've only seen in you know on TV and magazines, and and I and they're all used to being the star kind of, so it was funny. We're in this little like shed, and Donnie's like rolling joints, and everyone's kind of it's a bunch of like alpha dogs, you know, like and I'm just standing there like nobody really knows me, kind of like looking at these guys, and then fucking Tom Area, I can never say his name, but he walks in with his like gorgeous wife, and she's in a fur coat, and we're all nobody says anything, everyone's just staring, like and like the big dog skater dudes just turning. He walks into the shed, he's just like, I heard you guys are smoking weed. Mind if I jump in and like everyone's like empty, oh dude, like the weed just kind of like piles onto the table, and um, and everyone, but everyone's like trying to be so fucking cool because like suddenly they aren't cool anymore. It's like the real guy comes in, yeah, and then we smoked weed with them, and it was like very polite, it was super nice. Everyone was like afraid to talk almost because they were just like not trying to kook it. His wife was super friendly, and then he was like, All right, I gotta go back and start getting ready to go to clock in. Like he said something funny, like, gotta go to work. And uh, we were we were like, dude, holy sh like everyone's like high-fiving each other, like that was insane. And then we got to like bring some beers and walk up to the stage and watch sound check, and we're all just like, dude, you mean we just talked to them right there, my like everyone's tripping. And then they they sound checked like three songs, and then we just they just like said, Okay, everyone that has beers, has to put them in a cup. Slayer's gonna play for real. And then we just like stood at the front of the stage and just Slayer was like at our face.

SPEAKER_05 33:43

Do you think that if we go back to the episode we could find you?

SPEAKER_01 33:46

Uh and that was a time when smoking weed with a celebrity was really quite lovely. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 34:08

I didn't know phones, nothing, like no paranoia kind of.

SPEAKER_01 34:11

No, it wasn't like I mean, it was there were cell phones, but you wouldn't really use them in that way to be weird or fuck up the moment. But you couldn't just texting about it. You couldn't instantly upload stuff like that. You can't like sneak a video like sketchy style. No. Or like, hey, can I get a photo? It'd be like someone that had to have a camera. But it was, yeah, it was real pleasant. Fuck and it was cool to see the big dogs that were like, yeah, man, fuck East Coast legends, all just they were in a couple of things.

SPEAKER_05 34:38

It doesn't really get any bigger than Slayer, especially not in that community of like Slayer. Oh, of the of the cool, like of the rowdy crowd.

SPEAKER_01 34:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 34:47

Slayer is R.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

Like the absolute like guys that the skaters that were there, there were some like wolves in that room, and they were neutered the minute fucking Slayer physically entered the space.

SPEAKER_05 35:04

It's funny, like thinking of you being there actually on set, whilst I'm like in my boys' room, watch watching this shit on like television, just like fanboying very intensely. Like I'm I'm down South Sweden, yeah, like in my PJs almost, just watching this shit on television, yeah, exactly. And you're there.

SPEAKER_01 35:32

But you know what's funny is like I kind of generally because I've worked in with celebrities, like I generally pride myself in being able to talk to anybody without cooking it. And you know what? I don't think I cooked it in front of Rihanna, I like just hid everything desperately. But um, I think some of it comes from skating because that's the most people that look up to people will never meet those people. Yeah, but skating, you can kind of interact with these people when demos used to happen. You can meet the most famous person in your sort of scope of the world and quickly figure out what freaks people out and what it makes disarms them. But that's Amer that's American.

SPEAKER_05 36:15

But you guys didn't have like demos. We had a bunch of demos, but then it was such a big of a difference between like the pros and being like a Swedish you know, kid or rider. It was so different. Yeah. Um I remember I met Josh Casper. Yeah, he was super big. Yeah, it was like Osiris, like one of these aftermath tour or something. Big crew, yeah, bunch of OGs, yeah. But just I mean, us communicating with them or like learning about them being more human than we thought. No way. Like it was still very, very it was like the movies for us. So we never learned that. We had like three or four pros here.

SPEAKER_01 37:00

Yeah, I just I I don't know, maybe that's just in America, but I always thought like I mean I'm speaking for me and my crew now back in those days, but maybe in because if you like your favorite hockey player, you're probably never gonna be a favorite actor, never gonna be. No, true. You know, you get you get it like skateboarding kind of gets you a little closer. Yeah, the bubble is and you know does a lot for sure. No other industry do they send the talent into the crowd.

SPEAKER_05 37:28

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 37:30

No, definitely.

SPEAKER_05 37:31

So I was thinking about that, actually.

SPEAKER_01 37:33

It gives you a little bit like it's more than the average person who's just gonna like kook it right off the bat.

SPEAKER_05 37:39

Yeah, it is practice as well. Yeah. Just being around um public figures. Yeah, that's what I mean. It's just like you learn fairly quickly that making them feel relaxed is the the best for the whole kind of crew and it's like, otherwise it's ruined.

SPEAKER_01 37:54

You can't come at them crazy or else they'll just freak out.

SPEAKER_05 37:57

Um treat others how you want to be treated.

SPEAKER_01 38:01

Oh man, that's just great. That's great.

SPEAKER_05 38:04

Do you think Rihanna treated you the way she wanted to be treated?

SPEAKER_01 38:08

I feel like she did follow the golden rule.

SPEAKER_05 38:10

Do you think it goes both ways? Like if you're one of the most famous persons, do you think you kind of trying to set an example of social behavior?

SPEAKER_01 38:23

I think that would be great if everybody did that. Not everyone has the best idea of social behavior, but I think it would be great if everyone was like, hey man, like you don't gotta be a dick. Yeah. Like, and I I thought you know, the few times I dealt with her, she was cool. She didn't need to do anything.

SPEAKER_05 38:43

Um I like that when celebrities kind of set the the tone. Yeah. Like instantly, they're like, hey, don't worry, I know you're like the a really big fan, but uh, I'm just a guy or a girl, and uh let's have some fun. Yeah, you know what I mean? And then like everyone's like, What? Aren't we supposed to like bow to you? Or like it's so it's such a nice, um that happens.

SPEAKER_01 39:08

I did that, I think well the one time I was truly spooked was was working with Lemmy where I was like interviewing him and shooting him. Yeah, he did that. He was like, Hey man, he could tell I was like geeking it pretty hard. He was like, hey man, it's fine. He was like, it's all good. Yeah, I was like, okay, he's like, grab some beers and like sit down. Oh, hell yeah. And uh I was like, okay, cool. And like I grabbed some beers and put them near my feet one minute clank, beers on the floor. He's like, Well, it's just the first of the night, and in my head, I'm like, you fucking idiot. Stupid Chris. Stupid. Yeah, like, and he was just he had that thing where he was like, Listen, he gets it a lot, where like, you know, yeah, everybody the cool ever no matter what, everyone's a little tripped out.

SPEAKER_05 39:51

Maybe he is actually one of the few that could like be more crazy to smoke out with in a shed.

SPEAKER_01 39:58

Yeah, I think so. Because he walked Slayer would be like, damn, Lemmy's here.

SPEAKER_05 40:04

Like for sure. Imagine Slayer telling this story backstage. Hey, you heard the time I smoked out with Lemmy? Yeah, yeah. True.

SPEAKER_01 40:13

I did meet um.

SPEAKER_05 40:17

I pissed next to um who's this guy who plays him. Have you seen Bosch the series? Really cool fella.

SPEAKER_00 40:27

Bosch Humphrey.

SPEAKER_05 40:28

He was in Sons of Anarchy as well, playing the Irish Oh Jibs.

SPEAKER_00 40:34

What's his name?

SPEAKER_01 40:35

I think he played Gibbs in Sons of Anarchy. Oh, this shit. This guy.

SPEAKER_05 40:39

Yeah. Dear Cat, did you talk to him? It was crazy. We were at um Seoul House in Malibu. Or no, sorry, Laguna.

SPEAKER_00 40:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 40:50

Um my friend, I was staying in LA for a couple of months. My friend had, you know, the membership, so we went there. I was looking pretty cool back then. Yeah. I had the longer hair and the big mustache. Oh, yeah. Leather jacket. Yeah, you know, musician look.

SPEAKER_01 41:07

I like it.

SPEAKER_05 41:08

And it's so funny in these places, like membership clubs, even the famous people think that they're missing out on somebody, maybe somebody new, like, oh my god, what who is this guy? Like, no one knows, you know, it feels like the confidence plays everyone a little prank in these places. Um the funny thing, I was watching that show at the at the time, I was like, I was so into it. It's a show where he plays like um old school detective, kind of. Super dark, and he's like an ex-Navy SEAL or something. Just so badass.

SPEAKER_01 41:51

Ex-Navy SEALs are the best.

SPEAKER_05 41:53

And um For a plot. I was going up to take a piss, and he just walks in at the same time as me. And he looks at me, he's just like looking at me like I am somebody, you know what I mean? I'm just a kid. Yep, I'm just a plus one, but I could have been. Yeah. Like whoever. And he's just like, What's up, man?

SPEAKER_01 42:15

Titus Welver?

SPEAKER_05 42:16

Yeah. What a fucking thing. But he just like to me, he was very big, like at that time.

SPEAKER_01 42:22

He was in a lot of movies, he's like a character actor in movies, too.

SPEAKER_05 42:25

Yeah, so I was like playing it cool, but he was like really looking for a combo, standing next to him and you know, pissing. He's just like, How are you doing tonight? Like, I'm like, oh, I'm just uh trying to piss.

SPEAKER_04 42:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:40

Um not everyone has conversations with their dicks out.

SPEAKER_04 42:44

No, and I don't I don't remember what he said.

SPEAKER_05 42:46

He was chit-chatting, he was like, Well, how you do it? Like the house at night. I was like, he was like, What are you doing? I'm like, Yeah, I'm just here with like not like that, it wasn't like homoerotic at all. It was just like a buddy thingy. Oh he was like maybe he was into rock and roll or something, and he was like, Oh, maybe this guy's like the next one. Maybe he likes Ben Zeppelin. Yeah, and we took a piss, we went out, and he was like, have a good night. Then I went downstairs and our the table we were sitting on, kind of, or by, just for some reason, Miley Cyrus and her guy at the time, they were sitting like next to us. Oh what's his name? One of the brothers? Jonas brothers? No, no, no. The Australian fella. Crocodile Dundee. Yes. Miley Cyrus and Crocodile Dundee. That was sitting at the table.

SPEAKER_01 43:43

Amazing couple.

SPEAKER_05 43:44

No, Ham Hemsworth. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 43:47

The big giant brother. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 43:49

Thor's Thor's brother. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think she was dating at the time. Or maybe they're still together. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 43:54

Oh, because there's two of those are the brothers. Okay, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 43:57

So they're sitting there at the table, Thor and his brother. And Biden Cyrus, and just a bunch of normal Swedes, you know, working with media. Uh, and he's just looking at me like, 'Who the fuck is this guy?' I love that hanging out with Miley. I love that, and it was so fun to just pretend. You're like the name of the whole night, like yeah, you don't even know who I am, buddy.

SPEAKER_01 44:19

I'm about to be very famous, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:22

But that's what LA LA does that to you. Oh, I think just it just fuck, it's dangerous. That's yeah. You start to believe. Yeah, you almost believe that you are somebody. Yeah, and that's when you get to smoke out with Rihanna.

SPEAKER_01 44:35

I didn't feel like somebody I felt like I felt like I was in like a bombing attack or something.

SPEAKER_05 44:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:43

But uh But fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:46

You never know. That was funny. I did not play it cool, I think. I I I felt like I was like, I fucking love your TV show. I mean, I wish I could have said that, but you know, once you do that, then it's over.

SPEAKER_01 44:57

I'm gonna call her mom and put her on speakerphones.

SPEAKER_05 45:00

Then you're like, then you're done. Yeah. Then you then you need to stop pretending.

SPEAKER_01 45:05

You're like, what's up, little bitch? Yeah.

unknown 45:08

I didn't.

SPEAKER_01 45:09

You don't know who I am? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 45:10

Oh, you haven't heard about me?

SPEAKER_01 45:12

Yeah, my my I got my drum, but my new single's about to come out.

SPEAKER_05 45:15

Yeah. But it's funny.

SPEAKER_01 45:19

In those um Was it like a Soho House thing? Yeah, Soho House. I did that. I went to uh someone brought me to the like shortage club back in the day with my like photo portfolio. I was gonna meet a bunch of people, like fashion people. And I remember similarly, without weed, I remember showing my portfolio to a bunch of like stylists and editors and stuff on this couch, and I remember thinking, oh my god, I'm gonna die. And I went to the I was like, I gotta go to the bathroom, and I went to the bathroom, I had basically had food poisoning for an hour, and then like showed back up, and they were like, hey, and like I had to explain I got a little sick, got my shit and left. Um that's the only time I was in the Soho house, like visually puking and shitting, and then I left. I didn't really make a good first impression, I don't think.

SPEAKER_05 46:14

It was, I mean, it is a horrible place in many ways. It was also before it kind of popped up in all the other cities.

SPEAKER_01 46:21

What's the deal with the one here? You go there a lot?

SPEAKER_05 46:23

No, I've been there once to Nas. Nas was doing a set there. That's fun. Yeah, he was doing like three or four songs there. Oh, okay. Very intense. And it's an old church.

SPEAKER_00 46:35

Nice.

SPEAKER_05 46:36

That I think who's the guy living there? I think Jonas Orklund. He lived there. He's lived no, he lived there at one point in this weird church. And he's like, um I'm just making this up. But maybe he lived. I think he lived there, you know, when he was doing Britney Spears videos and shit like that. I don't know. What happens is that when he had money, he bought that shit. And it just rumor has it, he had just had one big bed in the church. Yeah. And that was it. And he just went through the party, kind of. Um, that that place uh sucks.

SPEAKER_01 47:13

But what goes on there now?

SPEAKER_05 47:14

Like I mean, they trying to they tried to do it as a social club. I remember I got membership to it and I was like, oh no, what it just pays for. Stupid, expensive. Bar is terrible, beer's expensive. They tried making it cool, but there I guess that there aren't a lot of like enough cool people in this city.

SPEAKER_01 47:34

That wave of that is not because like it's a little bit not enough people think that exclusive means good. No, because even like there's the one in New York in the West Village, and like my friend was a member, and she's like, You should come just use the pool. And I show up one day with like my towel, and I'm like, This is this is like hell on earth. Yeah, it was like they let everybody in. Yeah, there was nothing exclusive really happening, it was just like the pool is on you couldn't use the pool because you're just like butt to butt with like random strangers standing in piss while everyone drinks fucking you know, margaritas that are too expensive.

SPEAKER_05 48:11

Um I don't know. I don't I think celebrities are becoming less they're not such an asset. No, you can't really use them anymore.

SPEAKER_01 48:21

No, no, it's just run clubs.

SPEAKER_05 48:23

Yeah. Oh fuck.

SPEAKER_01 48:24

You just have to have a run. Everything's a run club. There's no more Soho House needs a run club.

SPEAKER_05 48:29

Yeah, they maybe they can turn into a club.

SPEAKER_01 48:31

That could just be what it is. It's a run club. And it's probably cheaper to, you know, you don't have to spend a lot of money.

SPEAKER_05 48:38

We should start a club. With just kind of got a club right here. Yeah, I mean, we got the club. This is true. Very hard to get into.

SPEAKER_01 48:49

A clubhouse. I don't even think I have like any clubs left in me. No, maybe um I think it's like so performative. I don't know. I think the the saturation of run clubs, because I was already in a wave of run clubs like 15 years ago.

SPEAKER_05 49:05

So you were in the run club, and now you're hating on them.

SPEAKER_01 49:08

Yes, because I I was like 26 and it was like all these creative people, like, hey, like Nike's funding it, it's kind of like guerrilla marketing, it's fun, you get free stuff. And you're like free stuff. I was like, free stuff, and like, but then it's like, hey, we have little budgets to make things, so like we were doing cool stuff, but eventually I was like, this is just like cheat, like free advertising for some big corporation, and like I don't give a shit that much. It's nice that people are healthy and stuff and run, but I kind of phased myself out of it, and then I forgot that these things existed until I got here, and then it was like there's like 25 run clubs, and they're all competing for like being the healthiest, being the unhealthiest, being the wackiest with the most like outer gear, neon. It's like a screen printing pyramid scheme, I think. Somebody take a moment.

SPEAKER_05 50:00

Let's run two miles and then we'll have beer and pizzas together whilst you purchase my brand. Yeah. That's also like a short swing.

SPEAKER_01 50:10

The dark part of it in this economy is that marketing is just like we can't pay for campaigns to be photographed or made, but we'll just take a bunch of struggling creatives who can't get work from us, and we'll give them free pizza and a t-shirt, and then they'll just tweet our brand's logo for fucking five days. Yeah. And then we'll re-upload it. And then it's Tuesday again, time for another run club, gentlemen. Like, and then it just goes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:40

It must be so hard. Like, just doing a skate brand, it's almost impossible to get people to yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:47

Pear does a great skate brand called Ava Hardware, by the way. For my friends in the States that may not know.

SPEAKER_05 50:53

Yes, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 50:54

And uh it is a real grassroots mom and pop or father and father organization.

unknown 51:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:02

Well, that's what you call in the states, you call everything that's like a what you're doing is like mom and pop store. Yeah, it's not corporate-backed.

SPEAKER_05 51:10

But I mean, if if not even that works, we need to figure out new ways of like cheating people. Yeah. Or like, you know, just luring them into an activity that is a brand.

SPEAKER_01 51:25

Yeah. I mean, I don't think the thing with the run club is it's it's not in itself bad. You're getting people to run, that's fine. Yeah. It's not cheating them in that one sense. Isn't it? But it's convincing them to do shit for you without their them digesting it all.

SPEAKER_05 51:42

It feels like it's not 100% about the running.

SPEAKER_01 51:47

No, not at all.

SPEAKER_05 51:47

It has nothing to do with running. So, I mean, you get people to run, but they're not if you zoom out, they're not running.

SPEAKER_01 51:55

No, you're just doing like it's just promo.

SPEAKER_05 51:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:59

Um but I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 52:01

What else can we? I mean, if we're if we were to get people to promote this pod cost. Podcast. Podcast. Yes. Podcast. We need to we need to find an activity for them to do, you know.

SPEAKER_01 52:16

Yeah. As a group.

SPEAKER_05 52:17

As a group, but in like or does it have to be a group? I mean, we need the more people the better.

SPEAKER_01 52:23

Yeah. Not just one cool.

SPEAKER_05 52:24

Yeah, what like at least ten cool people every week to do something. Chess club, maybe, um just you know. Um, but maybe on something healthy as well. Cooking club, fight club, cooking club.

SPEAKER_01 52:41

I mean, I don't think we're in that, we don't need that just yet.

SPEAKER_05 52:46

No, but we're playing with it. It's a it's a game.

SPEAKER_01 52:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 52:49

I guess what would work? Carving, you know what's tree climbing.

SPEAKER_01 52:54

My friend Ted, shout out to Ted. I think he's one of our three diehard fans. Yeah, shout out to Ted. Basically, they do. I've seen it here. It's like the drinking and drawing thing. He used to have like drawing salons in his apartment, and you just show up and drinking and drawing, and he would have these things that you could draw, he'd have it all all laid out all over his place, and you would come and you would be there with people you never saw in your life, and you end up like having some wine and just drawing and like trading things that, like, oh, can I borrow this? I want to draw this thing now. And before I was mature enough to think it would be cool in any part of life, I realized that that was very fucking cool. Like you steal that. Can we steal that, Ted? Oh, I think he would he would consider it uh flattery, but it's very cool. It's like you start spacing out and talking to people, and like you're not raging, you know. They do it like you know, wine and painting. I've seen like some storefronts that do it and in pottery and stuff. Um, but I feel like that's a pretty healthy get people talking, yeah, unwinding.

SPEAKER_05 54:01

You just need something to do with your hands. That's pretty much what I think. Or just sit still with a tennis ball like you're doing right now, just fuck juggling with one hand, squeezing. Unable to sit still. That's the thing. Drinking and drawing.

SPEAKER_01 54:15

Yeah, that's a good time. Because you you're not really partying, you're just getting loose enough to like make a new friend, sort of.

SPEAKER_05 54:24

Um so we provide the paper, people bring the drinks.

SPEAKER_01 54:28

It's kind of what we did at Ted's place, I think. He just had some photocopied like images that you could interpret and draw your own version of. And it was usually like because he was an art history guy, it was always like good stuff. Yeah. He would find cool things.

SPEAKER_05 54:47

What else did you have? You had fake Jim Carrey. Yeah, fake Jim Carrey. I mean, no one is not talking about it.

SPEAKER_01 54:55

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, he's got different eyes. He looks like he got stung like a bee. When they showed him, his voice was like super muted. I always thought Jim Carrey was like the cool guy, kind of on uh the outside of Hollywood. He was like never he was like happy to be weird. I don't know why we would want to change Jim Carrey out, but I will tell you, I do remember seeing when we had a president who was incapable of speaking some days, like randomly they would show him and he'd be like six foot five. Sleepy Joe. Sleepy Joe, there's like footage you could find, which you could probably cut in. Yeah, where he's walking out of the White House and he's like taller than I am, and his wife's like down here. Why wouldn't they get him a better body tube? It might have been like a last minute, because I think for that one, all he had to do is like wave and walk somewhere. So it looked like he's on stilts, like he had like European cut like suit pants, so like he's moved, but he's also moving very well, and our and at the time Joe was like having trouble with like stepping up a curb, falling upstairs, falling downstairs. But uh I fully believe that people use masks and stuff like that. Like you can't use it 100%, but I don't know what would be the point of.

SPEAKER_05 56:17

There was a bit um on TikTok from like a makeup artist who kind of turns himself into celebrities for it. Did you see that? No, but I've seen like he's claiming he was Jim.

SPEAKER_01 56:33

Could be. I dude, it's so that's one of the theories. The masks that they've had for like at least 25 years are like pretty spot on. But the it's the voice thing that Well, he was talking like he had like a voice that was very much not his like peppy.

SPEAKER_05 56:50

And he wasn't funny. No, that's the because when someone is funny, it's you know, it's in them kind of.

SPEAKER_01 56:59

Yeah, you're like, oh, that's the personality of the guy, I reckon. It's in every word, and like he was like very simply speaking, and like I'm just so happy to be here.

SPEAKER_04 57:06

He was just medicated. Um or slower or not funny.

SPEAKER_05 57:11

If it's not funny, it's not Jim.

SPEAKER_01 57:13

I think he looked like he was aging pretty gracefully. Like he looks like he's aging well. So I don't know about blasting his whole head up with Botox to go to a fucking awards ceremony.

SPEAKER_05 57:24

I mean, he could just rock a beard and be cool still, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 57:27

Like what would be the point of doing that to him right before an awards ceremony and sending him to it? Yeah. And then having his eyes be different colors. Maybe he started drinking pee. Maybe he's in a urine therapy. The piss therapy? Yeah. Maybe it's not for him. I don't know. I mean, they say there's like stem cells in pee.

SPEAKER_05 57:46

Yeah, there are urine drinkers.

SPEAKER_01 57:49

I did know a chick who was like kind of like an actress, but not huge, and she was she was on a protocol for uh reverse aging, but not like the shit you buy at the drugstore. Like she was in like a program. Oh. Um, and I feel like it was like stem cells and all types of weird shit. She had like picked up in Hollywood. Um but no urine. I don't think she was drinking urine, but I think she was like probably darker things were happening. I feel like they were like it's not like mainstream yet. No, it was weird. Um you can't talk about it. I feel like I would just I don't have my facts like where I could just go on a rant, but it was definitely like she was telling me, and I was just staring at her with my jaw on the ground, like, what the fuck are you talking about? And she was like, Yeah, there's a lot of new technology, blah, blah, blah. Like, she's a little, she was like pretty and like had like the third role in like a minor sitcom, but like you know, there could be an option of like becoming a successful big big star. She was probably 34 when she told me, and uh, she was dead fucking serious, and it was like this whole thing to never to reverse aging and not like what your mom buys, you know, just like you gotta like get in the inner circle for this stuff, yeah. Like animal fetuses, yeah, like weird shit like that. Dolphins, you get warm, yeah. Yeah, you get warm. Fuck. I don't even want to know. But she does look great. I looked at her Instagram like two, like a year ago, looks great. Wonderful. Ten years later. Good for her, hasn't aged today.

SPEAKER_05 59:31

Are you sure it's her?

SPEAKER_01 59:33

Good question. Good question.

SPEAKER_05 59:36

Maybe she cloned herself like everyone else.

SPEAKER_01 59:40

Yeah, I mean that seems to be like a trend now.

SPEAKER_05 59:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:44

They've gotta have cloned people. You think so? If they cloned fucking sheep like 20 years ago, true. You know, like China Dolly, the sheep. You know they got like an army full of fucking super geniuses.

unknown 59:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:59

I think so. Would you clone? No. You sure? I wouldn't even clone a dog. Like, you know, people are like, oh, clone like Tom Brady, the quarterback, cloned his dog.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:10

Imagine how much shit you could get done if you had a clone. Like if it was actually a successful operation.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:19

No. No? Hard no.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:21

There's only one of me. Okay. Take it or leave it. Unless there's two of you. Yeah, but I would have to be you in order to clone me, you'd have to get my permission. I would never I would rather be a fucked up imperfect train wreck than copy myself.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:38

But I'm just saying, if there was a possibility to clone, yeah, and it was, you know, you could actually decide on and off. But this is here's the situation. Yeah. You wake up, you're sick, you're like, fuck, I need to take my kid to school or to to kindergarten or whatever. Yeah. And you can just press a button, yeah, and another version of you would do that for you.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:01

No.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:03

Why not?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:03

Civilization would collapse.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:05

But no one knows. This is you're the only one.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:07

Yeah, but the thing is, if you didn't.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:09

Help me out here. It's a game.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:10

No, no, no. No, no, no. If you did this, no one would ever have downtime ever. And everyone would fry. And it would be like overload.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:21

It's only you. Only me.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:22

Yeah. So it'd be like a superhero. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:24

It's like a skill you have.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:27

I mean. Come on. No. Come on, clone Chris. No, no, no. I would want to keep my unique self and just deal with it versus like the convenience of the.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:38

That's so big of you. That's so big. You're so good person.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:42

When you get to my age, dude, when you when you see a fucking when you see like how life is about just hacking everything and achieving convenience, and then that ultimately just like slowly blows up in your face. Yeah. I've tried to hack things my whole life and never have they actually worked out correctly. They've just sort of band-aided things until like the fucking monster finds me.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:05

Wouldn't it just be like a little bit nice to send number two to like a boring shoot? Like, hey Chris, you're shooting this run club tonight.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:17

No.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:18

It's 20, it's 20,000 euros.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:20

No, I'd rather show up and be like, what's up, you fucking dickheads.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:26

You know it's not about running. You're all being used. They're just making you run because they got a brand.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:34

Yeah, I'd rather do that. It's a little element of humanity. No, I I get it.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:38

Yeah. Um okay, no clones.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:42

No, I wouldn't be cloned. I wouldn't clone my dog. I would want to find a new dog.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:47

You know, some of some people they buy a new dog and they name them like number two. You heard about this?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:56

Like Joey 2?

SPEAKER_05 1:02:57

Yeah. Like three in four or two. Joe the second? Yeah. That's strange. It is it is very strange. It's like almost believing that there's no difference. Yeah. Like no difference between dogs and their personalities. It's just like a little weird. You're not yourself. You're a new version of what I once had.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:18

Yeah. Or there's George Foreman. He named all of his kids George. Yeah. It was like eight dudes in a house named George, which seemed like fucking dumb. Also, I knew a guy who got a cat and named it after himself. He was a kid. He's like, I didn't couldn't think of a name, so he named it. I named him after myself. He said it in the most honest way.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:37

I was like, that's I mean, that's cool. Yeah, I was like, I like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:41

He was like 12 or something. He's like, oh like both names?

SPEAKER_05 1:03:45

Like a first name.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:46

No, his name's Ty. Tyshawn. And uh and he was I remember we were talking one day and he was like, Yeah, I got a cat, and I just named it Ty Sean because I couldn't think of anything. And uh I'd never heard that before, but then it was kind of adorable.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:00

Very cool, actually very inspiring. Cat just cat tie or just tie?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:06

No, I think you just call it Thai or something. I forget. I mean, this is like years ago, but I remember just kind of having a chuckle, but then thinking like that's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:14

You must have smoked some of that Rihanna. You must have had that before naming it.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:20

It was like very kid-like, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:23

Yeah, very, very good, actually.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:26

Yeah, I like that.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:28

We should do that if we get a pet.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:30

A joint pet.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:32

Yeah. Name it Chris and Pear. Chris Christopher. We'll just name it maximum impact. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:43

That's cool. It needs to be a fat dog. Chongus. Like a sleepy fat dog.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:51

They only we only feed him the band Crowbar.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:54

Oh yeah. Fat animals. Yeah, there's been a lot of crowbar lately on the internet.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:01

Yeah, they uh they definitely released the crowbar meme nonstop.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:07

Which kind of funny. I saw one with a Dax Hound getting stuck in a fence.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:13

A Dachshund?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:15

Yeah, a Dox Doxhind.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:18

Um got stuck in a fence and somehow it was like a crowbar meme.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:22

Yeah, because it was too fat to get out of it. Ah, it climbed in and then the belly was kind of so they had to use one of these like uh firefighter tools to get him out of it there. It was just like a crowbar whiff whilst them getting him out of the room.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:40

How like defeated did the dog look?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:43

No, he was just like a bit aggressive and a bit too fat for the fans.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:47

Oh man. Fat animals though.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:49

Yeah. Heroes.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:51

They are, but also it's like, damn, what are you doing to your cat?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:55

You said you've seen that fat monkey in in um Japan in Japan?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:59

I've never seen Seen a fat monkey.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:01

This one is you know you will know it when you see it. It's it's the a fat monkey. He is so fat and he's just like is he like also smoking cigarettes and shit? No, he's not one of these monkeys. He's very polite and he looks very like he just became fat because he people keep feeding monkeys in those areas, and he's been like always there for the feeding. So people try to find him now to feed him because he's famous. So he gets like all the food now. So then people go shopping. And he just becomes fatter and fatter and fatter and cuter and cuter. Until he falls over dead. Google him and you will you will see. Fat monkey.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:44

Chinese fat monkey.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:45

Fat what are they called? Those fat monkey eating fruit kind of.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:51

Fat monkey eating fruit. Oh no, I feel like the producer.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:57

And he's got these eyes. And while whilst him getting the food, he looks like he's really thinking about something.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:05

Oh yeah, he's a big boy. You find him? Yeah. So he's the guy I've been seeing. Who's like they were showing like kind of smiling and somebody opening up like a cookie for him or something?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:18

But he they don't look like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:21

They're skinny. Ah, that is that is the only fat monkey I've ever seen. He is. He's a big fella. He's adorable. Yeah. And he's very happy to get his food. But you think if they're just giving him fruit, he wouldn't pack it on so heavily.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:34

Sugar and fruit.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:35

A lot of sugar.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:37

You get like three boxes of strawberries every day. Yeah. And you're this big. That's a monkey size.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:44

Dude, that's why, like, I don't think we should just give kids like big glasses of orange juice for breakfast. No, everything needs to be small. Well, I mean, it's just like orange juice is like crack. Yeah. Like you send a kid spracked out of his mind at 8 a.m. to school, just like fully jacked up on like a bunch of orange juice. But when I was growing up, I thought that was healthy until I realized how much sugar is on the floor. Just imagine cereal. Yeah, it's shit.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:12

Cereal is the real crack. I don't even do that. I did that a lot.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:17

I think I did it as a kid, but now it might we don't we rarely have cereal. No.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:24

Fuck that. Good, good um universe though, the Kellogg's universe. I was collecting these coins on the back of the packages. Oh I bought so much merch, Kellogg's merch. Really? Yeah, because it was kind of like an own currency. These like at at a few like a couple of years, there was like these Kellogg's coins. And there was one in every package. You collect ten of these, you could like get a space jam basketball or something. Like you could buy stuff with them. Yeah. And it at one point they contacted me. They were like, hey, you seem like you really love Kellogg's. Like the office in Stockholm wrote to send us a letter. And they were like, Do you want to be in a commercial? No way. No, yeah, they wanted me because I was such a diehard fan. Did you do it? No, no. We sent a picture and like a little bit about me.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:16

Hi, my name is Pierre. I like I like soccer and um I really like Kellogg's. Bye bye.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:21

They're like positions have been filled, sorry. Yeah, they're like, oh my god, you're so ugly. So ugly. Oh my god, we should never do this again.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:27

Yeah. He wasn't as beautiful as we hoped. Let's do the next one. Let's do the second most consumer in Sweden.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:35

Who's hopefully at least not ugly? But back in the day, you still like write letters to companies and be like, hey, I love your brand. Do you have any free shit? And they'd be like, here's a collared shirt with a logo.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:49

It was such like a thing back in the day.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:53

Or like, sure, uh, we have stuff. Send cash to the address.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:58

But sometimes they would just in an envelope.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:00

Yeah. And you send like coins in an envelope to them, and they're like, Yeah, here it is. Here is the sombrero with the with the logo on it.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:12

Yeah, the Coca-Cola sombrero.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:13

Or here is a blow-up chocolate bar for you. That's just lovely. So good.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:18

Some guys like getting your letters like, alright, go on the back, find whatever you can shove. This guy again. Fuck. You just keep sending us cash. What are we supposed to do? We can't even like deposit it. Just like a pile on some table. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:37

Well, we managed to talk for a while. We did, man. Even though I had nothing to talk about. I really had a lot of stuff to talk about.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:44

I didn't have anything to talk about, really. I could have done the war for an hour and a half, but then that's sort of just repetitive.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:50

Maybe I should stop preparing and just trust my uh my brain.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:55

I think we got a good mix of like freestyle.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:58

Yeah. I like that you had thought about something today.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:01

I did. Normally I think of stuff too.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:03

Yeah. Um but I I like that I I could pick, even though I didn't really pick much.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:09

I think um we did it pretty close to the last one. And shit, life happens. Yeah. You can't just be laying around looking at the internet all day trying to brainstorm research topics. Yeah. Um let's see how this little dust up in the Middle East plays out. Maybe we'll revisit it if there's any cool stuff happening.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:31

Yeah. Let's hope it doesn't last, but um, I mean the world tells a tale which never ends. That was good, man. Wasn't it? That was good. Yeah. Just sometimes it happens. Yeah, you're you gotta have a lot of things. The world is the side of the table's got some. The world tells a tale. That never ends. That's good.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:59

I like that.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:01

Well, I learned that you were at Castle Bam. I didn't know that. Yeah, that was cool. And it's fun that worlds collide after a while.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:15

It is.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:15

If you stay around long enough, yeah, I would not think that I would get a story from that, you know, that night when I was 12 years old in my PJs watching MTV. I did not expect that to happen.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:32

And I wouldn't clone, I don't think cloning's good. No. Not even for convenience.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:36

We learned that that you're a very stubborn felda. Anti-clon. You will never give in to the cloning companies.

unknown 1:12:42

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:43

You get a letter in your mailbox like, hey, your clone is finally ready to be like.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:48

That's literally one of these fucked up envelopes. It'll be in Swedish. Your clone is completed. Yeah. You are no longer necessary. But I didn't. But I didn't. But No, no, no, sir. We've we've got enough data from your life now that we can just create you and Well, sir, you shouldn't have done a podcast for two years.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:08

Yeah. Because now we got your voice, we got all your interests, all your stories.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:12

We have you, but not stubborn. Yeah. And it's perfectly a compliant situation.

unknown 1:13:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:19

I don't know. That could happen to you.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:20

That's gonna happen to everybody. They're gonna be like, yeah, we don't need you. We got your your data construct. So we're gonna have a web shop. Yeah. We're gonna have uh a thing on the things where you listen that says, Oh, I'd like to donate. I'm feeling crazy, just got paid. Yeah, like three bucks a month. Come on, guys.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:39

Need to offload a couple bucks. Who are you if you're paying not paying for this? Honestly.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:45

I mean, I'm not paying for this.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:47

Actually, I guess I think I'm paying. Yeah. So pay me. Pay me back, Chris, by donating.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:56

I'm swimming in debt by being in this thing. The only thing it's achieved so far is that now I owe more money to more people. Yeah. So uh perfect.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:08

But that's what we do. Yeah. Stubborn guys like us. Stubborn boys. Clone free. Stubborn boys, clone free. That's a hat. Yeah. See you next week. Thank you. Bye bye.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:25

All right.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:26

Stumber boy. Stubborn boy money.